Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... (Destiny)
Let's go back to your original post to see if we are on the same page.
You said:
I don't know why you don't think a plan you later regret should not be called a mistake.
I took that to mean that you thought that Bungie had made a plan that they later regretted.
I also inferred that the plan that you meant was a plan to use shards to gate progress.
How I understood your sentence was, to paraphrase, "I don't know why you don't think a plan [to gate progress with shards] you later regret should not be called a mistake."
My reply was to point out that it was not Bungie's plan to gate progress via shards. I then presented the evidence to demonstrate that it wasn't Bungie's plan.
I'd like to do that again and highlight those parts that indicate their intent.
On CE drop rates vs. VOG:
The Forever 29 meme was a killer for us.
We sat down and talked about the rewards for VoG and the rates vs. CE and ended up with the following:
increase drop rates globally in CE: we wanted dedicated players to be around 32 or real close by the time Hard mode came out.
increase the variability of perks that a given piece can roll.
the goal here: players would reach 32 easier than 30, but would have more customization and options to build the perfect set (in terms of stats, perks, weapon affinities)
The part where this didn't work as well as we'd hoped is with the Shard economy. Shards are a are a barrier between you and equipping a sweet new piece of gear.
We want fewer barriers to equipping upgrades. The shard economies erect these barriers between players and the new piece of gear they just got.
They wanted to increase drop rates globally and have dedicated players real close to 32 by the time hard mode came out.
Luke mentions that forever 29 was a killer for them and he never mentions any worries about people getting to 32 too soon. Nor does he say that the shards were a failed attempt at gating or that he regrets gating. There is no mention of gating.
He definitely did not say anything like. "We decided to implement a shard economy to gate progress." "and now we regret that decision."
Complete thread:
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
bluerunner,
2015-01-24, 17:25
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW - Blackt1g3r, 2015-01-24, 18:27
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW - CaneCutter, 2015-01-24, 18:41
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Speedracer513,
2015-01-24, 18:46
- Nay, all YEAR!! - Mid7night, 2015-01-24, 19:52
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-24, 22:41
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Ragashingo,
2015-01-24, 23:48
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-25, 01:36
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Durandal,
2015-01-25, 06:27
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 07:26
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Durandal,
2015-01-25, 12:36
- RPGs are all about barriers - Fuertisimo, 2015-01-25, 15:01
- RPGs are all about barriers -
RC,
2015-01-25, 13:36
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 13:43
- RPGs are all about barriers - RC, 2015-01-25, 14:18
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 13:43
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Durandal,
2015-01-25, 12:36
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 08:42
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 09:07
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 10:39
- RPGs are all about barriers - Kahzgul, 2015-01-25, 10:48
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-25, 10:41
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 10:44
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 10:55
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 11:00
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 11:30
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 13:39
- RPGs are all about barriers - Kahzgul, 2015-01-26, 08:46
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 13:39
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 11:30
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 11:00
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 10:55
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 10:44
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 10:39
- RPGs are all about barriers -
narcogen,
2015-01-25, 17:36
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 18:16
- RPGs are all about barriers - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-26, 00:10
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-25, 18:16
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 09:07
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Fuertisimo,
2015-01-25, 07:26
- RPGs are all about barriers -
Durandal,
2015-01-25, 06:27
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-25, 01:36
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Monochron,
2015-01-25, 09:26
- No way those were mistakes - scarab, 2015-01-25, 11:10
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Vortech,
2015-01-25, 11:28
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
scarab,
2015-01-25, 11:47
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-25, 12:19
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
ZackDark,
2015-01-25, 12:28
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-01-26, 05:26
- Don't put words in my mouth -
scarab,
2015-01-25, 14:00
- Don't put words in my mouth -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-26, 05:26
- No problem :-) - scarab, 2015-01-26, 08:58
- Don't put words in my mouth -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-26, 05:26
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
ZackDark,
2015-01-25, 12:28
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Vortech,
2015-01-25, 12:30
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... - scarab, 2015-01-25, 14:27
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... - Cody Miller, 2015-01-25, 13:41
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-01-25, 12:19
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
narcogen,
2015-01-25, 17:38
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Vortech,
2015-01-25, 18:03
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Leviathan,
2015-01-25, 19:46
- too complicated, the meme is: bungie fans are angry -
scarab,
2015-01-25, 22:58
- A bit strong don't you think? - Blackt1g3r, 2015-01-27, 10:34
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-01-26, 08:07
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Ragashingo,
2015-01-26, 08:24
- Good point - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-01-26, 08:46
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? -
dogcow,
2015-01-26, 09:22
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-01-26, 09:38
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? - dogcow, 2015-01-26, 09:51
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? - Cody Miller, 2015-01-26, 11:45
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? -
Cody Miller,
2015-01-26, 11:37
- A crafting system? Hell - to the freaking - yes. - RC, 2015-01-26, 13:17
- Reasoning for Radiant Materials. A Mistake? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-01-26, 09:38
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... - Cody Miller, 2015-01-26, 11:34
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Ragashingo,
2015-01-26, 08:24
- Levi Was Right - RaichuKFM, 2015-01-29, 19:54
- too complicated, the meme is: bungie fans are angry -
scarab,
2015-01-25, 22:58
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Leviathan,
2015-01-25, 19:46
- That's pretty much my take. - Kermit, 2015-01-25, 20:20
- Agreed - yakaman, 2015-01-26, 06:58
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
Vortech,
2015-01-25, 18:03
- Pretty sure all those "mistakes" were intentional... -
scarab,
2015-01-25, 11:47
- Ya know... -
RC,
2015-01-25, 14:15
- Ya know... - Monochron, 2015-01-25, 15:20
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Ragashingo,
2015-01-24, 23:48
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
slycrel,
2015-01-25, 18:48
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-26, 10:27
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
scarab,
2015-01-26, 11:13
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-26, 12:05
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
scarab,
2015-01-26, 12:35
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
slycrel,
2015-01-26, 14:47
- put in effort? - scarab, 2015-01-27, 09:12
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
slycrel,
2015-01-26, 14:47
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
scarab,
2015-01-26, 12:35
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-26, 12:05
- There is so much more to it than just gating progress -
scarab,
2015-01-26, 11:13
- Luke Smith on mistakes made in TDB and improvements with HoW -
Kahzgul,
2015-01-26, 10:27