That was my immediate reaction too, but I dunno. (Destiny)
I do think the Last Word was sort of outside of it`s effective range, and the shotgun clip was in the air. In that sense these are more like propaganda clips. That being said I see where he is coming from. And I too have felt how unrewarding hand cannons can feel at times. The base accuracy seems unreasonably low, especially on the initial shot. Still, bloom cone must have reached the outer ring not far from were the other player is standing. Watching the clips closely the shots fired don`t seem to actually go outside outer bloom ring(?), so technically the UI is doing it`s job conveying your chances of hitting at that range. Theoretically, the system is something you can adapt to, it will reward skill, and how it works will be totally transparent. But, that is not all there is to it. Hand cannons are acting a bit weird and can hit or miss further away or closer than that. That is the bit that makes it seem a bit random, and then it might as well be random. Either way, apologists blame latency and maybe that people not pacing their shots, and ranters blame ghost bullets or bloom in general for any odd miss wether they should or not.
I can see that the initial accuracy feels off, but I don`t really want cross map Hand Cannon duels like year one. Hopefully his point comes across, and Bungie can tune it to feel "more right" (patent pending). I got to say, comparatively, that Tripple made his point in a calm and mature way.. Except the people universally hated bloom in Reach comment, --I mean, I am sure I was not alone in thinking bloom in itself is not a terrible mechanic back then. I am not saying every sentient being on the planet has to agree with someone for that person to generalize a bit, but "universally hated" are TWO states of undeniable solid end-of-story absoluteness.
I obviously do not feel like weapons "always, always should hit what you point at". (Do you suppose he means Bungie should just up the recoil a bit, and remove the reticle when you are out of range or something so you can`t really point at what you can`t hit?). But, despite all that I think the vid still was great, and props to him. Bungie will have to address this in some way now.
Complete thread:
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 05:25
- That was enraging to watch. Yuck.
- someotherguy, 2016-09-09, 06:22
- That was my immediate reaction too, but I dunno. - Dundre, 2016-09-09, 10:31
- Ghost Bullets - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 10:15
- I think he misses an important point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-09, 10:22
- I think he misses an important point -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 11:04
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:07
- I think he misses an important point -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 19:08
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:09
- I used to play as "The Betrayer" because, well... - Kahzgul, 2016-09-10, 14:55
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:09
- I think he misses an important point -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 19:08
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:07
- I think he misses an important point -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 11:49
- I think he misses an important point - Kahzgul, 2016-09-10, 15:01
- I think he misses an important point -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 11:04
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed".
- slycrel, 2016-09-09, 12:13
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed". -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 13:06
- agreed - slycrel, 2016-09-09, 13:46
- Bloom isn't communicative enough, IMO -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 15:00
- Effective Range & Cones of Accuracy, not bloom. - dogcow, 2016-09-09, 15:17
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed". -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 13:06
- Haunting -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 12:50
- Haunting - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 13:20
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- My thoughts on the matter -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 14:39
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 15:18
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 15:52
- My thoughts on the matter -
bluerunner,
2016-09-09, 16:07
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:02
- My thoughts on the matter - Harmanimus, 2016-09-09, 19:27
- My thoughts on the matter -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 23:07
- My thoughts on the matter - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-10, 13:22
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:02
- My thoughts on the matter -
bluerunner,
2016-09-09, 16:07
- People golf for fun?
- stabbim, 2016-09-09, 15:54
- I golf for beer
- unoudid, 2016-09-09, 16:00
- I do -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 16:00
- I do - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 16:22
- I prefer to follow Twain's lead.
- SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:01
- I golf for beer
- My thoughts on the matter - uberfoop, 2016-09-09, 15:59
- My thoughts on the matter -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 17:16
- My thoughts on the matter - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:08
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 15:52
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 15:18
- My thoughts on the matter -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 14:39
- Ghost Bullets -
red robber,
2016-09-09, 17:33
- Ghost Bullets -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 17:41
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 17:58
- I'd love that. Show us the ranges!
- dogcow, 2016-09-09, 19:05
- I'd love that. Show us the ranges!
- Ghost Bullets -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 19:04
- Not sure I agree... -
slycrel,
2016-09-09, 19:41
- Not sure I agree... -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 20:04
- I smiled.
- Robot Chickens, 2016-09-10, 12:55
- Not sure I agree... -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-10, 16:42
- Nice improvement. :)
- dogcow, 2016-09-12, 13:55
- Nice improvement. :)
- I smiled.
- Not sure I agree... -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 20:04
- Not sure I agree... -
slycrel,
2016-09-09, 19:41
- Ghost Bullets - red robber, 2016-09-09, 20:11
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 17:58
- Ghost Bullets -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 17:41
- The scout rifle 'misses' actually irritated me. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-09, 22:15
- That was enraging to watch. Yuck.