
Not sure I agree... (Destiny)
This was the sweet spot for a long time with HC's. Far enough to not be able to easily rush you, close enough to aim effectively. I'd put this at solid mid-range. If I had to round it might go to long range, but it's really the middle ground, and often where lots of combat happens.
Definitely approaching the closer part of scout range and right in the middle of pulse range IMO. And, with the doctrine archetype, well within auto-rifle range. HC's can't compete well in this domain where most other weapons at least have archetypes that shine here.
I think Bungie even admitted this by mentioning a high impact longer range HC as a "new" archetype that would be dropping.
Back when HC's were amazing I would definitely engage at that range and further. It was pretty great! Now? I'll begin an engagement at that range, but I'll want to get in closer so I can reliably land shots. I'd like my HC's to have more range, I love em, but I don't think they're intended to be effective at anything past the range he's testing them at. And.. that video kinda proves they weren't meant to be reliable at that distance.
How I see effective ranges (with some humor):
. (titan melee)
[SG] (shotgun)
[-WM-] (warlock melee)
[--AR--]
[---HC---]
X (his target)
[----PR----]
[-----SR-----] (scout rifle)
[---------Sniper---------]
Edit: Added Titan Melee & target range.
Complete thread:
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 05:25
- That was enraging to watch. Yuck.
- someotherguy, 2016-09-09, 06:22
- That was my immediate reaction too, but I dunno. - Dundre, 2016-09-09, 10:31
- Ghost Bullets - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 10:15
- I think he misses an important point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-09-09, 10:22
- I think he misses an important point -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 11:04
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:07
- I think he misses an important point -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 19:08
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:09
- I used to play as "The Betrayer" because, well... - Kahzgul, 2016-09-10, 14:55
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:09
- I think he misses an important point -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 19:08
- I think he misses an important point -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:07
- I think he misses an important point -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 11:49
- I think he misses an important point - Kahzgul, 2016-09-10, 15:01
- I think he misses an important point -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 11:04
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed".
- slycrel, 2016-09-09, 12:13
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed". -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 13:06
- agreed - slycrel, 2016-09-09, 13:46
- Bloom isn't communicative enough, IMO -
someotherguy,
2016-09-09, 15:00
- Effective Range & Cones of Accuracy, not bloom. - dogcow, 2016-09-09, 15:17
- IDK what the solution is, but this should be "fixed". -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 13:06
- Haunting -
Durandal,
2016-09-09, 12:50
- Haunting - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 13:20
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 14:25
- My thoughts on the matter -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 14:39
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 15:18
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 15:52
- My thoughts on the matter -
bluerunner,
2016-09-09, 16:07
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:02
- My thoughts on the matter - Harmanimus, 2016-09-09, 19:27
- My thoughts on the matter -
cheapLEY,
2016-09-09, 23:07
- My thoughts on the matter - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-10, 13:22
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 19:02
- My thoughts on the matter -
bluerunner,
2016-09-09, 16:07
- People golf for fun?
- stabbim, 2016-09-09, 15:54
- I golf for beer
- unoudid, 2016-09-09, 16:00
- I do -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 16:00
- I do - Cody Miller, 2016-09-09, 16:22
- I prefer to follow Twain's lead.
- SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:01
- I golf for beer
- My thoughts on the matter - uberfoop, 2016-09-09, 15:59
- My thoughts on the matter -
stabbim,
2016-09-09, 17:16
- My thoughts on the matter - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-09, 19:08
- My thoughts on the matter -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-09-09, 15:52
- My thoughts on the matter -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 15:18
- My thoughts on the matter -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 14:39
- Ghost Bullets -
red robber,
2016-09-09, 17:33
- Ghost Bullets -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 17:41
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 17:58
- I'd love that. Show us the ranges!
- dogcow, 2016-09-09, 19:05
- I'd love that. Show us the ranges!
- Ghost Bullets -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 19:04
- Not sure I agree... -
slycrel,
2016-09-09, 19:41
- Not sure I agree... -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 20:04
- I smiled.
- Robot Chickens, 2016-09-10, 12:55
- Not sure I agree... -
Ragashingo,
2016-09-10, 16:42
- Nice improvement. :)
- dogcow, 2016-09-12, 13:55
- Nice improvement. :)
- I smiled.
- Not sure I agree... -
dogcow,
2016-09-09, 20:04
- Not sure I agree... -
slycrel,
2016-09-09, 19:41
- Ghost Bullets - red robber, 2016-09-09, 20:11
- Ghost Bullets -
BeardFade,
2016-09-09, 17:58
- Ghost Bullets -
Cody Miller,
2016-09-09, 17:41
- The scout rifle 'misses' actually irritated me. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-09, 22:15
- That was enraging to watch. Yuck.