
Flaw Explained (Destiny)
What percentage of the Destiny population should be able to do the raid after doing those missions?
100%.
Because after playing all the easy to find content (no use of the internet on my part) I was at 360. I made a point of playing strikes (which I found fun) to gain as much as I could, which got me to 365. I'm not so sure I couldn't have, personally, done the raid at 360.
That's the entire crux of the issue. Those missions should give guaranteed rewards to get you to the proper light level. You should finish the last bit of content without repeating anything at whatever level is necessary for the raid. It's not like they can't make that happen--they're just intent on making people grind out light levels for whatever asinine reason they have in their heads.
I feel pretty confident that if the content had dropped my raid group at 380 prior to the raid that we wouldn't have felt the joy we did upon completion...we'd be better rested today...our bosses would be happier...but if it was a walk in the park would we feel good about it?
Again, that's sort of the point. The raid (and the game, in general) would be better if was just tuned at a set difficulty level and the entire stupid Light level system was gone altogether. It adds nothing to the game except whatever joy players get out of watching bars fill up. If the raid is tuned to be LL 380, you should effectively be at 380 for the entire game. Leveling up and grinding gear adds nothing but the requirement to grind and chase that number. What's the actual point?
Okay, but no one is making you replay the exact same content over and over any more than is natural for Destiny.
Okay? They're still forcing you to replay content. It's bad design. Or at least unfriendly design. So now, you can choose between The Library, Truth & Reconciliation, and The Pillar of Autumn. But it's just those three levels put in a hopper over and over and over again. And you just have to do that for some random amount of time until you can move on. Would that be acceptable? Because that's what Destiny is doing.
At the end of the day, if you want to play Destiny for more than 20 hours you WILL be repeating content.
And? Why should I have to play the game for 20 hours before Bungie deems it acceptable for me to play the Raid? Maybe I only want to play the game for 10 hours, or however long it would take to do everything in the game exactly one time. But I can't, because Bungie decided that I need to repeat things over and over and over for hours and hours and hours before I can do the final thing the game has to offer. How is that acceptable? Cody specifically has stated that the raids are pretty much the sole reason he plays Destiny. He should have to play 15 hours of shit he doesn't want to before Bungie decides it's okay for him to do the only activity he really wants to do? The idea that you have to "earn" the ability to raid is asinine, in my opinion.
For most of us, that is still fun! The entire design of the game is to make that fun. If you don't find repeating a strike or a mission fun, than yeah, Destiny is going to be really hard to swallow.
Again, that's sort of the entire issue. Halo CE was a blast, and I've played every level in that game over 20 times, easily (and that's a hugely conservative estimate--Halo was the only Xbox game I had for over six months when I first got my Xbox). But it would have sucked if I would have been forced to do that in order to unlock the ability to do the Maw Run and finish the game.
Complete thread:
- I'm really disappointed in 340-365 and especially 365+ -
petetheduck,
2016-10-02, 15:35
- Iron Banner will definitely change the landscape -
Beorn,
2016-10-02, 15:41
- Iron Banner will definitely change the landscape -
bluerunner,
2016-10-02, 15:46
- IB usually drops ghosts but not artifacts - Kahzgul, 2016-10-03, 14:24
- Iron Banner will definitely change the landscape -
bluerunner,
2016-10-02, 15:46
- I'm really disappointed in 340-365 and especially 365+ -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-02, 15:48
- Agreed -
someotherguy,
2016-10-02, 16:04
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-02, 16:11
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Korny,
2016-10-02, 17:08
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
petetheduck,
2016-10-02, 17:16
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Korny,
2016-10-02, 17:18
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... - Claude Errera, 2016-10-02, 19:36
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Korny,
2016-10-02, 17:18
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-02, 17:49
- Hell, I even got an Exotic out of blue once...
- ZackDark, 2016-10-03, 09:22
- Hell, I even got an Exotic out of blue once...
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Avateur,
2016-10-02, 18:05
- That you find that hilarious... -
kidtsunami,
2016-10-02, 18:11
- That you find that hilarious... -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-02, 18:13
- +1
- Avateur, 2016-10-02, 18:15
- Because finding it hilarious is unproductive
- kidtsunami, 2016-10-02, 18:42
- That's . . . - cheapLEY, 2016-10-02, 18:52
- All I know is that I like GV way more now and I lolled.
- Funkmon, 2016-10-02, 19:14
- +1, and I couldn't care less about HBO
- ProbablyLast, 2016-10-02, 19:20
- +1, and I couldn't care less about HBO
- +1
- That you find that hilarious... -
Avateur,
2016-10-02, 18:14
- That you find that hilarious... - Cody Miller, 2016-10-02, 20:39
- That you find that hilarious... - petetheduck, 2016-10-02, 19:25
- Looks like I just didn't get it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- kidtsunami, 2016-10-02, 20:09
- That you find that hilarious... -
MacGyver10,
2016-10-04, 14:04
- That you find that hilarious... - Avateur, 2016-10-04, 22:43
- That you find that hilarious... -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-02, 18:13
- This'll save me from storm, but you'll be consumed.*Raid SP* -
UnrealCh13f,
2016-10-02, 18:22
- HA
- Funkmon, 2016-10-02, 19:21
- The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
- petetheduck, 2016-10-02, 19:31
- Or the one. Haha.
- SonofMacPhisto, 2016-10-02, 20:09
- Or the one. Haha.
- The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
- This'll save me from storm, but you'll be consumed.*Raid SP* - Morpheus, 2016-10-02, 22:55
- lol, i actually said that friday night in our group - Schedonnardus, 2016-10-03, 18:08
- HA
- That you find that hilarious... -
kidtsunami,
2016-10-02, 18:11
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
dogcow,
2016-10-03, 13:14
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 13:28
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
dogcow,
2016-10-03, 13:36
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
ZackDark,
2016-10-03, 13:49
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 13:51
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
bluerunner,
2016-10-03, 14:41
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 14:53
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 15:02
- You mean buy synths from Variks, right? -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 17:25
- You mean buy synths from Variks, right? - bluerunner, 2016-10-03, 18:22
- You mean buy synths from Variks, right? -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 17:25
- This. Also, Weapon Parts is pretty good too - ZackDark, 2016-10-03, 17:26
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 15:02
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 14:53
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
bluerunner,
2016-10-03, 14:41
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 13:51
- RNG :( - DiscipleN2k, 2016-10-03, 13:49
- Strange Coins and Motes too -
ZackDark,
2016-10-03, 13:49
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
dogcow,
2016-10-03, 13:36
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-03, 13:28
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
petetheduck,
2016-10-02, 17:16
- Well, at least we finally got the Cody mystery solved... -
Korny,
2016-10-02, 17:08
- Agreed -
dogcow,
2016-10-03, 13:24
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 14:30
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Yapok,
2016-10-03, 18:05
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 18:17
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Yapok,
2016-10-03, 18:44
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 19:06
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works - Yapok, 2016-10-03, 20:34
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 19:06
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Yapok,
2016-10-03, 18:44
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 18:17
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Yapok,
2016-10-03, 18:05
- Yapok has a blind raid in the works -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 14:30
- Agreed -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-02, 16:11
- I'm really disappointed in 340-365 and especially 365+ -
petetheduck,
2016-10-02, 16:33
- That's the spirit. - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-10-02, 20:09
- Pretty much. - ProbablyLast, 2016-10-02, 18:16
- Agreed -
someotherguy,
2016-10-02, 16:04
- I'm really disappointed in 340-365 and especially 365+ - Cody Miller, 2016-10-02, 20:40
- Can someone explain the flaw to me? -
Earendil,
2016-10-03, 15:59
- Flaw Explained -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 16:09
- Flaw Explained -
Earendil,
2016-10-03, 16:28
- Flaw Explained -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-03, 16:56
- Flaw Explained -
Earendil,
2016-10-03, 17:22
- Flaw Explained - Cody Miller, 2016-10-03, 17:50
- Flaw Explained - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-10-03, 17:56
- Flaw Explained -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-03, 22:33
- Flaw Explained - Cody Miller, 2016-10-03, 23:10
- Flaw Explained -
Earendil,
2016-10-03, 17:22
- Flaw Explained -
cheapLEY,
2016-10-03, 16:56
- "Flaw" Explained -
Korny,
2016-10-03, 17:05
- "Flaw" Explained -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 17:39
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 17:49
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 17:55
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 22:41
- MMO 101
- Funkmon, 2016-10-04, 07:31
- Well, yeah.
- Kahzgul, 2016-10-04, 14:33
- Well, yeah.
- MMO 101
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 22:41
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 17:55
- The missing ingredient -
Kermit,
2016-10-04, 18:01
- The missing ingredient -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-04, 18:14
- The missing ingredient -
Kermit,
2016-10-04, 18:43
- The missing ingredient - Cody Miller, 2016-10-04, 19:07
- The missing ingredient -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-10-04, 19:09
- The missing ingredient -
squidnh3,
2016-10-04, 19:18
- The missing ingredient - cheapLEY, 2016-10-04, 22:36
- The missing ingredient -
Kermit,
2016-10-04, 19:23
- The missing ingredient - Cody Miller, 2016-10-04, 20:10
- The missing ingredient -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-04, 20:48
- The missing ingredient -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-04, 21:23
- The missing ingredient - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-10-04, 22:00
- The missing ingredient -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-04, 21:23
- The missing ingredient -
squidnh3,
2016-10-04, 19:18
- The missing ingredient -
Kermit,
2016-10-04, 18:43
- The missing ingredient -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-04, 18:14
- Strange Coins are Awesome and Will Help You Cody -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 17:49
- "Flaw" Explained -
Revenant1988,
2016-10-03, 18:14
- Skill is one thing... - Korny, 2016-10-03, 19:30
- "Flaw" Explained -
EffortlessFury,
2016-10-04, 00:27
- "Flaw" Explained -
Avateur,
2016-10-04, 03:26
- "Flaw" Explained - EffortlessFury, 2016-10-04, 04:53
- "Flaw" Explained -
Avateur,
2016-10-04, 03:26
- "Flaw" Explained -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 17:39
- Flaw Explained -
Earendil,
2016-10-03, 16:28
- There is an RNG bottleneck for Ghosts and Relics -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-03, 17:42
- How I got past this -
unoudid,
2016-10-04, 13:33
- Yeah, it's not fun. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-10-04, 13:57
- Yeah, it's not fun. - MacAddictXIV, 2016-10-04, 13:59
- Yeah, it's not fun. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-10-04, 13:57
- How I got past this -
unoudid,
2016-10-04, 13:33
- Flaw Explained -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-03, 16:09
- Iron Banner will definitely change the landscape -
Beorn,
2016-10-02, 15:41