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It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. (Destiny)
The Light is Paracausal. The Guardian operates outside of linear time either Causal or Acausal (Forward and Reverse time) and the level at whih that has reality warping effects has not been fully explored. I think suggesting it doesn’t make mechanical sense is an undersell. It’s complex and not necessarily intuitive (Paracausality isn’t) but that doesn’t make it bad.
No, the fact that it's an overly complicated hand-wavy way to make the story and the mechanics "make sense" is what makes it bad. It's them half-assing their way out of the corner they put themselves into in the first place.
Maybe if they had been telling that story from the start I would feel different. But instead we are all experiencing the same story from different sets of eyes. We’ve never been playing with millions of Guardians in the world. That suddenly changing now is silly.
I think the first paragraphed you just typed in this post is silly. We see every other Guardian out in the world, doing the same things we're doing, and they're all just paracausal entities that are actually still us and no one in the game has anything to say about that? That's ridiculous.
We have been playing with millions of Guardians out in the world, literally. We see it every time we log on and go to a Destination with other Guardians running around. To ignore that feels foolish to me.
It's clear we'll never see eye to eye on this--it's just more proof that Bungie has a basically impossible task. No matter what they do, someone will end up disappointed.
Complete thread:
- The raids STARTS at 560. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:24
- The raids STARTS at 560. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-14, 10:27
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-14, 10:43
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:51
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. - INSANEdrive, 2018-09-14, 10:56
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:51
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
squidnh3,
2018-09-14, 11:40
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 12:45
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 14:06
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 14:27
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 14:32
- Being underleveled is probably okay - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-14, 15:19
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:23
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 15:47
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 16:08
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 16:39
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 20:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-14, 22:55
- Being underleveled is probably okay - Cody Miller, 2018-09-15, 00:01
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-14, 22:55
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 20:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 17:38
- Being underleveled is probably okay - cheapLEY, 2018-09-14, 18:15
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 16:39
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 16:08
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 15:47
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 14:32
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-14, 15:45
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:48
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 05:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 09:04
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:41
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-16, 13:05
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* - Cody Miller, 2018-09-16, 15:15
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-16, 13:05
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:41
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 09:04
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 05:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:48
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 14:27
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 14:06
- I only barely reached 520 - Blackt1g3r, 2018-09-14, 17:43
- I agree. - Kermit, 2018-09-15, 05:08
- You chose the absolute worst possible example - ZackDark, 2018-09-15, 05:10
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 12:45
- The raids STARTS at 560. - Cody Miller, 2018-09-14, 13:16
- 19 hours after it opened and no one has beaten it yet. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:51
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:54
- Heh, good timing, blue
- ZackDark, 2018-09-15, 05:10
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. - Korny, 2018-09-15, 07:23
- Heh, good timing, blue
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 08:53
- Yeah, this is kind of a big deal for some people :(
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 09:06
- Easy, just avoid the Dreaming City until your team is ready! - Korny, 2018-09-15, 09:11
- First raid clear has unlocked Dreaming City content for ALL -
CougRon,
2018-09-15, 09:46
- First raid clear has unlocked Dreaming City content for ALL - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 10:07
- I care much less about this than I care about mechanics
- Kermit, 2018-09-15, 10:44
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 10:52
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - Cody Miller, 2018-09-15, 11:52
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 12:18
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 13:08
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 14:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 14:59
- Yes.
- Ragashingo, 2018-09-15, 15:19
- Yes.
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 14:59
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 14:18
- Your point. It is good.
- Ragashingo, 2018-09-15, 15:12
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - breitzen, 2018-09-15, 15:55
- Your point. It is good.
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 14:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 13:24
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 16:11
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 17:00
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - cheapLEY, 2018-09-15, 18:39
- +1
- breitzen, 2018-09-15, 18:22
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-15, 20:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 20:25
- someone /else/ doesn't matter to me in influencing /my/ game
- Harmanimus, 2018-09-15, 20:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 21:16
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 09:10
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 09:41
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:58
- +7
- Harmanimus, 2018-09-16, 10:32
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:50
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . - Harmanimus, 2018-09-16, 11:38
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:50
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 11:12
- +7
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 10:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:45
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 12:34
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:46
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:49
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:52
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - EffortlessFury, 2018-09-16, 17:00
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:52
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:49
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:46
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:35
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-16, 15:19
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Harmanimus, 2018-09-18, 17:43
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-16, 15:19
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:55
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:47
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 15:25
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Ragashingo, 2018-09-16, 15:29
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:47
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 13:48
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 12:34
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:45
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:55
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Cody Miller, 2018-09-16, 13:54
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 09:41
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 09:10
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 21:16
- someone /else/ doesn't matter to me in influencing /my/ game
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 20:25
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 17:00
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 16:11
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 13:08
- Yeah, this is kind of a big deal for some people :(
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:54
- FYI: Datto missed the 24 hour raid clear emblem by 2 minutes
- CougRon, 2018-09-15, 10:23
- Ugh. I feel for the guy, and his team.
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 10:27
- That's gotta hurt
- Kermit, 2018-09-15, 10:46
- Lol! Bromnigul's team flat-out gave up. - Korny, 2018-09-15, 11:37
- Ugh. I feel for the guy, and his team.
- The stats speak volumes: -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 18:56
- What will matter is why. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-15, 21:47
- What will matter is why. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 21:49
- Fuuu...
- INSANEdrive, 2018-09-15, 21:50
- What will matter is why. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-16, 05:36
- Fuuu...
- What will matter is why. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 21:49
- What will matter is why. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-15, 21:47