It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. (Destiny)
No, I’m literally saying that we are all playing he same Guardian. The VoG Vex time stuff doesn’t even apply to that implication. It’s much farther reaching consequences.
Is that thought backed by known lore? Or is it a theory you have?
FWIW, I don’t know much if the lore around the VoG. Is it canon that our fire team went in and ended Atheon for good? I just feel like it’s really easy to chalk that particular raid up to “Vex time shit,” which can fit nicely with every fireteam still tackling that raid.
I'm referring to the first half of your post. What leads you to believe that we are all playing the same Guardian? This is the first time I'm hearing this perspective so I'm curious as to where it originated.
I didn't say that--Harmanimus did. I just replied to you to continue the discussion and make it clear that he could be totally right, and that my explanation for why we can all do the Vault of Glass is more just headcannon and an easy explanation for why it makes sense from both a story and gameplay mechanics perspective.As for what lead hims to believe we're all the same Guardian . . . that is how Destiny sort of presents itself. Did you kill whatever was at the heart of the Black Garden? Did you kill Crota and Oryx? Took out Ghaul? Woke up the Traveler?
What do you know, I also did all of those things! How can that be? We're the same person. It's always been a weird disconnect between the story and the mechanical aspect of the game, and it probably always will be. I just chalk up to what it is though--the difficulty of telling an actual story where millions of people get to be the "hero" at the center. I think the game reacting to something like the first raid completion starts to address that issue in a cool way, though.
Oh, sorry, didn't notice.
I've always chalked that bit up to Bungie not knowing exactly how to handle it. This decision is probably their most overt attempt at establishing a "way to do it." I am personally fine with it and too find it neat.
Complete thread:
- The raids STARTS at 560. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:24
- The raids STARTS at 560. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-14, 10:27
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-14, 10:43
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:51
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. - INSANEdrive, 2018-09-14, 10:56
- By just playing, I've been able to get to 532. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 10:51
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
squidnh3,
2018-09-14, 11:40
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 12:45
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 14:06
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 14:27
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 14:32
- Being underleveled is probably okay - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-14, 15:19
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:23
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 15:47
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 16:08
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 16:39
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 20:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-14, 22:55
- Being underleveled is probably okay - Cody Miller, 2018-09-15, 00:01
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-14, 22:55
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 20:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 17:38
- Being underleveled is probably okay - cheapLEY, 2018-09-14, 18:15
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 16:39
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 16:08
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 15:47
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-14, 14:32
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-14, 15:45
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:48
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 05:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 09:04
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:41
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-16, 13:05
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* - Cody Miller, 2018-09-16, 15:15
- Being underleveled is probably okay *edited* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-16, 13:05
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:41
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 09:04
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 05:17
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 15:48
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 14:27
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-14, 14:06
- I only barely reached 520 - Blackt1g3r, 2018-09-14, 17:43
- I agree. - Kermit, 2018-09-15, 05:08
- You chose the absolute worst possible example - ZackDark, 2018-09-15, 05:10
- Being underleveled is probably okay -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-14, 12:45
- The raids STARTS at 560. - Cody Miller, 2018-09-14, 13:16
- 19 hours after it opened and no one has beaten it yet. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:51
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:54
- Heh, good timing, blue
- ZackDark, 2018-09-15, 05:10
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. - Korny, 2018-09-15, 07:23
- Heh, good timing, blue
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 08:53
- Yeah, this is kind of a big deal for some people :(
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 09:06
- Easy, just avoid the Dreaming City until your team is ready! - Korny, 2018-09-15, 09:11
- First raid clear has unlocked Dreaming City content for ALL -
CougRon,
2018-09-15, 09:46
- First raid clear has unlocked Dreaming City content for ALL - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 10:07
- I care much less about this than I care about mechanics
- Kermit, 2018-09-15, 10:44
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 10:52
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - Cody Miller, 2018-09-15, 11:52
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 12:18
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 13:08
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 14:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 14:59
- Yes.
- Ragashingo, 2018-09-15, 15:19
- Yes.
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 14:59
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Kermit,
2018-09-15, 14:18
- Your point. It is good.
- Ragashingo, 2018-09-15, 15:12
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - breitzen, 2018-09-15, 15:55
- Your point. It is good.
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-15, 14:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 13:24
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 16:11
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 17:00
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City - cheapLEY, 2018-09-15, 18:39
- +1
- breitzen, 2018-09-15, 18:22
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-15, 20:16
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 20:25
- someone /else/ doesn't matter to me in influencing /my/ game
- Harmanimus, 2018-09-15, 20:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 21:16
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 09:10
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 09:41
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:58
- +7
- Harmanimus, 2018-09-16, 10:32
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:50
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . - Harmanimus, 2018-09-16, 11:38
- I thought we were judging the game on its own merits . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:50
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 11:12
- +7
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 10:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:45
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 12:34
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:46
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:49
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:52
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - EffortlessFury, 2018-09-16, 17:00
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:52
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:49
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 16:46
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 16:31
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:35
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-16, 15:19
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Harmanimus, 2018-09-18, 17:43
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Ragashingo,
2018-09-16, 15:19
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 13:55
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:47
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 15:25
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Ragashingo, 2018-09-16, 15:29
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 14:47
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-09-16, 12:44
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - cheapLEY, 2018-09-16, 13:48
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 12:34
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:45
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:58
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-16, 09:55
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. - Cody Miller, 2018-09-16, 13:54
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 10:51
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-16, 09:41
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
Harmanimus,
2018-09-16, 09:10
- It's a live game with strong MMO-leanings. -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 21:16
- someone /else/ doesn't matter to me in influencing /my/ game
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 20:25
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 17:00
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 16:11
- There is a new cutscene when you travel to the Dreaming City -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-09-15, 13:08
- Yeah, this is kind of a big deal for some people :(
- As soon as I posted somebody beat it. -
bluerunner,
2018-09-15, 04:54
- FYI: Datto missed the 24 hour raid clear emblem by 2 minutes
- CougRon, 2018-09-15, 10:23
- Ugh. I feel for the guy, and his team.
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-15, 10:27
- That's gotta hurt
- Kermit, 2018-09-15, 10:46
- Lol! Bromnigul's team flat-out gave up. - Korny, 2018-09-15, 11:37
- Ugh. I feel for the guy, and his team.
- The stats speak volumes: -
cheapLEY,
2018-09-15, 18:56
- What will matter is why. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-15, 21:47
- What will matter is why. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 21:49
- Fuuu...
- INSANEdrive, 2018-09-15, 21:50
- What will matter is why. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-09-16, 05:36
- Fuuu...
- What will matter is why. -
Cody Miller,
2018-09-15, 21:49
- What will matter is why. -
INSANEdrive,
2018-09-15, 21:47