Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer (Destiny)
I think maybe the core of your problem is you have correctly identified a fundamental fact of game development, that games take longer to make than to play, but instead of trying to find a balanced solution to the problem (like strong core gameplay with some repetition and level / upgrade gating) you skip directly to a position of no compromises ever. Would I prefer for Bungie to make me 10 years worth of engaging, unique, creative content? Yes. Is such a thing possible? No.
But what about instead making 30 hours of content that is absolutely concentrated with fun? There's nothing wrong with that!I'm a big supporter of making games as short as they can be. Basically, you should try to concentrate the experience as much as possible and always be giving the player interesting things to do. You should cut out all the redundancies, filler, and boring parts.
Vanquish doesn't take very long to beat, but every second is jam packed with excitement, challenge, and novelty. To me, that's better than a 15 hour game that strings things out for the purpose of length.
I feel like we share a similar wish and taste in video game structure / pacing, but a certain bit of the above feels like a wolf howling at the moon. Bungie clearly aren't going for such a straight forward pure "content" only structure.
But hey, enthusiast discussions and all that, not saying that shouldn't be able to discuss this at all.
Complete thread:
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 10:12
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Zeouterlimits,
2014-06-23, 10:32
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - Cody Miller, 2014-06-23, 10:37
- I can easily see it going like Borderlands 2 - ZackDark, 2014-06-23, 10:41
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - INSANEdrive, 2014-06-23, 10:41
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-23, 11:41
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 12:47
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
electricpirate,
2014-06-23, 13:05
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 13:09
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? - RC, 2014-06-23, 13:31
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
electricpirate,
2014-06-23, 13:34
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 05:45
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 07:00
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 09:45
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 10:25
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 10:31
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 13:00
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 13:42
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-06-25, 13:44
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 13:42
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 13:00
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? - Kermit, 2014-06-25, 13:14
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 10:31
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 10:25
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 10:07
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 10:50
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 11:06
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? - Malagate, 2014-06-25, 11:23
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 11:06
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 10:50
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? - scarab, 2014-06-25, 11:14
- Did a JRPG pour sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 09:45
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 07:00
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 05:45
- Let's not criticize how much he cares -
kidtsunami,
2014-06-24, 04:15
- less about passion, more about tunnel vision - electricpirate, 2014-06-24, 08:14
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 13:09
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Claude Errera,
2014-06-23, 13:31
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - Cody Miller, 2014-06-23, 14:31
- Proposal - What if... -
ZackDark,
2014-06-23, 14:05
- Proposal - What if... -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 14:56
- Proposal - What if... -
ZackDark,
2014-06-23, 15:19
- Proposal - What if... -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 15:21
- Damn it, Bungie! - ZackDark, 2014-06-23, 15:23
- More seriously, though, granularity -
ZackDark,
2014-06-23, 15:27
- More seriously, though, granularity - Cody Miller, 2014-06-25, 12:51
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-23, 15:25
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 10:20
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-25, 10:55
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-06-25, 13:23
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-25, 10:55
- This is where I side with Cody - MrPadraig08, 2014-06-25, 10:55
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-06-25, 13:34
- Proposal - What if we stop calling it grinding? -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 10:20
- Proposal - What if... -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 15:21
- Proposal - What if... -
ZackDark,
2014-06-23, 15:19
- Proposal - What if... -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 14:56
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Ragashingo,
2014-06-23, 15:08
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 15:20
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - Ragashingo, 2014-06-23, 15:47
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - Zeouterlimits, 2014-06-24, 03:09
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
kidtsunami,
2014-06-24, 02:01
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - kidtsunami, 2014-06-24, 02:19
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 15:20
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Malagate,
2014-06-25, 07:18
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer - kidtsunami, 2014-06-25, 14:53
- Did a JRPG pore sugar in your gas tank? -
electricpirate,
2014-06-23, 13:05
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-23, 12:47
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
stabbim,
2014-06-23, 11:42
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Durandal,
2014-06-24, 14:26
- Compromise -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-24, 15:55
- I like this very much. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 10:16
- How to fix scout missions -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 10:28
- This - ZackDark, 2014-06-25, 11:14
- How to fix scout missions - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-06-25, 13:41
- How to fix scout missions -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-25, 10:28
- Compromise - HuskerAlpha, 2014-06-25, 11:27
- Compromise -
stabbim,
2014-06-25, 15:33
- Compromise - SonofMacPhisto, 2014-06-26, 08:06
- I like this very much. -
SonofMacPhisto,
2014-06-25, 10:16
- Compromise -
Cody Miller,
2014-06-24, 15:55
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Durandal,
2014-06-24, 14:26
- SchoolyD, TSD Clan, and Ahnold handle my Guardian Training -
Pyromancy,
2014-06-24, 21:50
- ;) - Yapok, 2014-06-25, 05:06
- Hypothetical - Guardian Trainer -
Zeouterlimits,
2014-06-23, 10:32