
What if the "grind" is an uphill battle? (Destiny)
You make a good point about the hardest content giving out the most effective gear being illogical.
I think PoE could fix this, even if it is a firefight-like activity:
Let's suppose that the way PoE works is that you have to fight through waves of enemies in randomised environments, and upon completing a wave receive loot and move on to a new environment with more difficult enemies then the last. However, the "Nightfall" modifier applies, so if your team wipes, you have to start all over again from Wave 1. Each wave tier's loot drop behaves similarly to how they do in raids, so you get 1 "wave 1" drop per week, 1 "wave 2" drop, etc. Getting to the final waves will be VERY difficult, especially just after the expansion drops and we haven't upgraded our gear yet.
As a summary, we're not expected to "finish" the Prison of elders every week, just get as far as we can and use our drops to improve our gear so we can do better and better every week, and eventually hit those final waves.
As to rewards:
Give out the "more effective" gear as rewards for completing earlier, easier "waves", that you can upgrade and eventually use to give you an edge on the later, harder waves. The rewards for these harder waves will be things like bonus etheral light and brag-worthy shaders and class-items.
Complete thread:
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 15:21
- An idea. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-23, 15:26
- An idea. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 15:28
- This concern is very well reasoned, I think
- RaichuKFM, 2015-04-23, 15:28
- What if the "grind" is an uphill battle? - CyberKN, 2015-04-23, 15:45
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-23, 15:55
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:15
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:20
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:37
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:47
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:53
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 16:56
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:53
- my prefered solution is to let people do what they want - scarab, 2015-04-23, 16:57
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:47
- I think this won't be an issue -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 16:57
- I think this won't be an issue -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 17:03
- Interesting... - slycrel, 2015-04-23, 18:59
- I think this won't be an issue -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 17:03
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:37
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - ProbablyLast, 2015-04-23, 19:58
- This concern is well reasoned, but with bad input - Earendil, 2015-04-23, 15:55
- My concern -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 15:56
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:15
- What about Forza? :)
- red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:22
- I'm a Gran Turismo man
- Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 16:23
- Oh yeah, PS4.
- red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:31
- You're missing out ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:36
- You're missing out ;p - stabbim, 2015-04-23, 22:00
- You're missing out ;p - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 23:27
- Oh yeah, PS4.
- I'm a Gran Turismo man
- My concern -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:32
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:45
- My concern -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-23, 17:15
- My concern - General Vagueness, 2015-04-23, 17:56
- My concern -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-23, 17:15
- Indeed.
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-23, 16:45
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:45
- What about Forza? :)
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:15
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 15:58
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:11
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:45
- My concern - Cody Miller, 2015-04-24, 13:27
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
ZackDark,
2015-04-25, 16:20
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-25, 17:13
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? - stabbim, 2015-04-27, 04:00
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-25, 17:13
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:45
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:11
- Two thoughts... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 16:07
- Also, they are purposely time-gating upgrades. No surprise.
- slycrel, 2015-04-23, 16:12
- Minor Correction: Crota's shields are not elemental.
- CyberKN, 2015-04-23, 16:14
- Thanks, I did not know that
- slycrel, 2015-04-23, 18:44
- Thanks, I did not know that
- Minor Correction: Crota's shields are not elemental.
- That Year 1 mention... -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:30
- That Year 1 mention... - bluerunner, 2015-04-23, 16:37
- That Year 1 mention... - slycrel, 2015-04-23, 16:52
- That Year 1 mention... - stabbim, 2015-04-25, 07:18
- I really think you're on to something here -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:58
- I really think you're on to something here -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-23, 18:05
- I really think you're on to something here -
dogcow,
2015-04-23, 18:25
- I really think you're on to something here -
CyberKN,
2015-04-23, 18:28
- I really think you're on to something here - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-24, 18:56
- I really think you're on to something here -
CyberKN,
2015-04-23, 18:28
- I really think you're on to something here -
dogcow,
2015-04-23, 18:25
- The "Crota hard strategy is boring" tangent -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:09
- A Word of Caution -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-23, 19:48
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:54
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-24, 18:58
- I killed him once. A new one immediately spawned.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-24, 06:09
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:54
- A Word of Caution -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-23, 19:48
- I really think you're on to something here -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-23, 18:05
- Also, they are purposely time-gating upgrades. No surprise.
- My concern - Ragashingo, 2015-04-23, 16:34
- An idea. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-23, 15:26