
Two thoughts... (Destiny)
I've always wondered what was the point of having great weapons drop from end game content. So you've just done the hardest content in the game. But then, what do you need the best guns for? If I'm running Prison of Elders every week, and doing Trials of Osiris already, why would I need the new guns? There's a reason you don't get the best stuff from the hardest optional bosses in JPRGs; the game makes them so hard that you have to use your best stuff to defeat them!
A little tangent, but I think it's relevant here... I've been thinking about crota hard recently. I think the way it's done isn't the way that's "intended". I think the abyss defiant was supposed to be key to that encounter -- kill the boomers, take out the wizards with an abyss defiant or two, then go after crota.
But nobody wanted to use a particular weapon (other than gjallarhorn I guess) for this encounter. I think dragon's breath was also supposed to work for the crota fight to take down his shields, along with fang of ir yut and oversoul edict being arc (which is what his shields are IIRC).
So I think bungie is working towards making certain weapons more relevant and working well in certain encounters. I don't necessarily agree that the way they did it was ideal, but I think it's on their radar and they'd like to make where and when you get weapons matter. I have hopes they learned from this and will use a bigger clue-stick next time. Bonus points for them not making it all tied to the one raid, but more throughout the game.
My other thought that I haven't seen mentioned much around here is the tooltip on the upgrade materials. Looks like "Year 1" weapons will top out with house of wolves caps of 365. Meaning this is the new normal -- most vendor based things and drops will cap at 331 (for the moment) and will require upgrade materials to get to 365. I wouldn't be surprised if -ALL- drops other than 1-2 work this way, both for weapons and armor in the expansion. The grind changes, and I expect certain events (i.e. VoG) will be come more popular because the drops will suddenly be relevant again. The new exchange system supports all this as well -- shards and energy are currency now, and will be more valuable, making the old content more viable.
Complete thread:
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 15:21
- An idea. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-23, 15:26
- An idea. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 15:28
- This concern is very well reasoned, I think
- RaichuKFM, 2015-04-23, 15:28
- What if the "grind" is an uphill battle? - CyberKN, 2015-04-23, 15:45
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-23, 15:55
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:15
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:20
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:37
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:47
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:53
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 16:56
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:53
- my prefered solution is to let people do what they want - scarab, 2015-04-23, 16:57
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:47
- I think this won't be an issue -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 16:57
- I think this won't be an issue -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 17:03
- Interesting... - slycrel, 2015-04-23, 18:59
- I think this won't be an issue -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 17:03
- I'm afraid of the opposite. -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:37
- I'm afraid of the opposite. - ProbablyLast, 2015-04-23, 19:58
- This concern is well reasoned, but with bad input - Earendil, 2015-04-23, 15:55
- My concern -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 15:56
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:15
- What about Forza? :)
- red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:22
- I'm a Gran Turismo man
- Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 16:23
- Oh yeah, PS4.
- red robber, 2015-04-23, 16:31
- You're missing out ;p -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:36
- You're missing out ;p - stabbim, 2015-04-23, 22:00
- You're missing out ;p - Cody Miller, 2015-04-23, 23:27
- Oh yeah, PS4.
- I'm a Gran Turismo man
- My concern -
Speedracer513,
2015-04-23, 16:32
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:45
- My concern -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-23, 17:15
- My concern - General Vagueness, 2015-04-23, 17:56
- My concern -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-23, 17:15
- Indeed.
- Ragashingo, 2015-04-23, 16:45
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:45
- What about Forza? :)
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:15
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 15:58
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:11
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:45
- My concern - Cody Miller, 2015-04-24, 13:27
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
ZackDark,
2015-04-25, 16:20
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-25, 17:13
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? - stabbim, 2015-04-27, 04:00
- Aren't the Raids upgrading? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-25, 17:13
- My concern -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:45
- My concern -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-23, 16:11
- Two thoughts... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 16:07
- Also, they are purposely time-gating upgrades. No surprise.
- slycrel, 2015-04-23, 16:12
- Minor Correction: Crota's shields are not elemental.
- CyberKN, 2015-04-23, 16:14
- Thanks, I did not know that
- slycrel, 2015-04-23, 18:44
- Thanks, I did not know that
- Minor Correction: Crota's shields are not elemental.
- That Year 1 mention... -
red robber,
2015-04-23, 16:30
- That Year 1 mention... - bluerunner, 2015-04-23, 16:37
- That Year 1 mention... - slycrel, 2015-04-23, 16:52
- That Year 1 mention... - stabbim, 2015-04-25, 07:18
- I really think you're on to something here -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-23, 17:58
- I really think you're on to something here -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-23, 18:05
- I really think you're on to something here -
dogcow,
2015-04-23, 18:25
- I really think you're on to something here -
CyberKN,
2015-04-23, 18:28
- I really think you're on to something here - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-24, 18:56
- I really think you're on to something here -
CyberKN,
2015-04-23, 18:28
- I really think you're on to something here -
dogcow,
2015-04-23, 18:25
- The "Crota hard strategy is boring" tangent -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:09
- A Word of Caution -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-23, 19:48
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:54
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-24, 18:58
- I killed him once. A new one immediately spawned.
- Funkmon, 2015-04-24, 06:09
- I'm shocked that the sword does damage to the gatekeeper... -
slycrel,
2015-04-23, 19:54
- A Word of Caution -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-23, 19:48
- I really think you're on to something here -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-04-23, 18:05
- Also, they are purposely time-gating upgrades. No surprise.
- My concern - Ragashingo, 2015-04-23, 16:34
- An idea. -
BeardFade,
2015-04-23, 15:26