The Vault Problem (Destiny)
they're weak enough to prevent them from being a viable option when you really need to get down to business. I'd never use one during a hard mode raid, for example... Or a nightfall, aside from raid ARs that match the burn modifier.
I do the Vault on Hard with the Epilogue and Doctor Nope/Silimar's Wrath all the time. I only use the Wrath in Crota's End. I use Nope for Dailies and Weeklies, and Wrath for when that proves too difficult-- For Nightfalls, I go with the burn, which so far is the Epilogue or the Edict. If it was a Solar or nil Burn Nightfall that I was going through, I'd definitely use my Wrath, as Solar Primaries have eluded me.It's not really that much of a challenge. At all. It only ever gets annoying when charged by a Minotaur with noone to back me up. And this is the archetype purported to suck harder than most ARs!
I've used stuff like Bad Juju in the Raids; I honestly feel like I do worse.
If your concern is with viability, not just efficacy, you might just be bad with Auto Rifles.
Shrug.
Bad Juju is also not a good example of a strong PvE primary. It's way better since the buff, but not great.
The Vault of Glass is also a specific case where ARs are particularly useful at times, because they're great against Oracles. I'll usually switch to Atheon's Epilogue during those segments as well.
Complete thread:
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 15:03
- The Vault Problem - Vortech, 2015-05-16, 15:06
- You already know they plan to increase space further... -
Monochron,
2015-05-16, 15:08
- You already know they plan to increase space further... -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 16:09
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Monochron,
2015-05-16, 16:31
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 17:26
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Monochron,
2015-05-16, 17:57
- That's a good point too. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 17:59
- That's a good point too. - Claude Errera, 2015-05-16, 18:07
- That's a good point too. - RaichuKFM, 2015-05-16, 18:51
- That's a good point too. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 17:59
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Monochron,
2015-05-16, 17:57
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 17:26
- Eh, what use is there repeating that. -
Monochron,
2015-05-16, 16:31
- You already know they plan to increase space further... -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 16:09
- The Vault Problem - RaichuKFM, 2015-05-16, 16:45
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 17:35
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 18:36
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 18:53
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 21:05
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 22:17
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:28
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 22:32
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:37
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 22:43
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:47
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 23:05
- The Vault Problem - RaichuKFM, 2015-05-16, 23:13
- The Vault Problem - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-16, 23:15
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 23:05
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:47
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 22:51
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 23:02
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 23:09
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-17, 00:38
- I find them rewarding to use :/ - RaichuKFM, 2015-05-17, 01:29
- The Vault Problem - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-17, 06:30
- Can Confirm: Abyss Defiant melts majors now - someotherguy, 2015-05-17, 12:00
- The Vault Problem -
ZackDark,
2015-05-17, 12:55
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-17, 13:52
- The Vault Problem -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-05-17, 15:25
- Does it work before the shields pop? - ZackDark, 2015-05-17, 16:49
- The Vault Problem -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-05-17, 15:25
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-17, 13:52
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-17, 00:38
- The Vault Problem -
ZackDark,
2015-05-17, 00:27
- But it's not a Sahara -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-17, 01:35
- Tears of joy, obviously. - ZackDark, 2015-05-17, 04:02
- But it's not a Sahara -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-17, 01:35
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 23:09
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 23:02
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 22:43
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:37
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 22:35
- Its more that your exposure is less - Durandal, 2015-05-17, 00:10
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 22:32
- The Vault Problem -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-16, 22:28
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 22:17
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 21:05
- The Vault Problem -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-05-16, 18:53
- The Vault Problem -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-16, 18:36
- This is bungie in a nutshell -
slycrel,
2015-05-16, 20:55
- This is bungie in a nutshell - Vortech, 2015-05-17, 01:14
- This is bungie in a nutshell - DreadPirateWes, 2015-05-17, 06:33
- Armour is even worse for me -
someotherguy,
2015-05-17, 12:17
- TIL: DBO is full of hoarders. -
Funkmon,
2015-05-17, 12:33
- I'm not a hoarder. I just want all the things. -
someotherguy,
2015-05-17, 12:41
- I'm not a hoarder. I just want all the things, m'kay. - iconicbanana, 2015-05-17, 13:56
- I'm not a hoarder. I just want all the things. -
someotherguy,
2015-05-17, 12:41
- TIL: DBO is full of hoarders. -
Funkmon,
2015-05-17, 12:33
- That's horrible. -
narcogen,
2015-05-17, 23:45
- That's horrible. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-18, 01:28
- That's horrible. -
Ragashingo,
2015-05-18, 01:40
- That's horrible. - ZackDark, 2015-05-18, 02:09
- That's horrible. - narcogen, 2015-05-18, 09:51
- That's horrible. -
narcogen,
2015-05-18, 09:51
- That's horrible. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-18, 17:00
- Why would you be THAT close to the limit? - ZackDark, 2015-05-18, 18:09
- That's horrible. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-18, 17:00
- That's horrible. -
Ragashingo,
2015-05-18, 01:40
- Pokemon -
RaichuKFM,
2015-05-18, 01:52
- Back on topic: "I know it's my Destiny" :p - Ragashingo, 2015-05-18, 02:08
- That's horrible. -
Cody Miller,
2015-05-18, 01:28