
Oh yeah, The Scholar is better, too. I forgot. (Destiny)
But definitely the hand cannon and auto rifle are much better than the Trials version of the primaries for the normal game, and it's not close.
Scout rifle yes, Messenger yes.
The scout rifle's basically only worthwhile if it's a void one though, since it's completely outclassed by the other two raid ones. And even then, Word of Crota, in my opinion, beats it at every point. This is because the only time you really want a void gun is on vex missions, and explosive rounds do a massive damage bonus to vex.
But, I will concede that it is better than the Wolves' Leash which is shit.
But the Jewel of Osiris, as much as I love 3rd eye, always goes in the back pocket when I can use VoC. And if I didn't have that, the solar PoE handcannon with a larger mag and decent perks would be my choice. If it's void, again, I'd take WoC. If it's arc, obviously fatebringer.
The auto rifle has crowd control and field scout, which blows The Summoner out of the water. It's also top of the line for all elements since our elemental auto rifles are complete shit. Summoner, if you don't have the PoE gun, is still good only because the other guns are awful.
And honestly, The adept Messenger is also outclassed unless in void in my opinion. Fang, Fatebringer, and Oversoul beat it in normal play (though you will still catch me using my arc Messenger sometimes), and for solar, vision of confluence is basically unbeatable.
Anyway, I'm just saying they're not good, if, like Ragashingo, you've got a large enough collection of elemental primaries.
All of that said, Tomorrow's Answer is the best non exotic rocket launcher in the game out of the box, the machine gun is amazing for no field scout and technically Eye of Sol is fantastic, though I don't like to use it. It's just that the elemental primaries from this expansion aren't that good, IMO. They're almost always on the bench for me.
Complete thread:
- Tales from the Lighthouse - Part 2 (Vids & Pics) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-14, 15:51
- On Self Res -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-14, 16:10
- Someone I play with regularly does the pocket infinity thing -
Funkmon,
2015-07-14, 16:22
- Some exceptions -
Earendil,
2015-07-14, 16:30
- Some exceptions -
Beorn,
2015-07-14, 16:34
- Some exceptions - Earendil, 2015-07-14, 17:06
- Some exceptions -
Chappy,
2015-07-14, 17:40
- Don't think so. -
CyberKN,
2015-07-14, 17:45
- Don't think so. -
Chappy,
2015-07-14, 18:39
- Yep, you can revive allies while in the immortality frames
- someotherguy, 2015-07-14, 22:14
- Yep, you can revive allies while in the immortality frames
- Don't think so. -
Chappy,
2015-07-14, 18:39
- Don't think so. -
CyberKN,
2015-07-14, 17:45
- Some exceptions -
Beorn,
2015-07-14, 16:34
- Someone I play with regularly does the pocket infinity thing - squidnh3, 2015-07-14, 20:05
- Some exceptions -
Earendil,
2015-07-14, 16:30
- Someone I play with regularly does the pocket infinity thing -
Funkmon,
2015-07-14, 16:22
- Nice pics -
Beorn,
2015-07-14, 16:32
- Nice pics -
CyberKN,
2015-07-14, 16:45
- It'll open up, at least as a cutscene. - dogcow, 2015-07-14, 16:49
- Thanks for the motivational boost Cyber -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-07-14, 16:52
- Thanks for the motivational boost Cyber - Ragashingo, 2015-07-14, 18:30
- Is it "easier" during Iron Banner? -
Schedonnardus,
2015-07-14, 16:53
- Worse, in my experience.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-14, 19:04
- Worse, in my experience.
- My findings -
TheeChaos,
2015-07-14, 18:22
- My findings - Funkmon, 2015-07-14, 19:05
- My findings -
Korny,
2015-07-14, 19:13
- Boots don't always have the heavy ammo perk.
- Funkmon, 2015-07-14, 19:27
- Boots don't always have the heavy ammo perk.
- My findings - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-07-14, 19:32
- Nice pics - squidnh3, 2015-07-14, 20:21
- Nice pics - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-07-14, 17:51
- This -
DreadPirateWes,
2015-07-14, 19:51
- This & That -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-14, 20:08
- Now that's just not true -
Earendil,
2015-07-14, 22:21
- Yep. Totally the same thing ;p
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-07-14, 22:24
- Yep. Totally the same thing ;p
- The thing that really bugs me about PoE 35 -
someotherguy,
2015-07-14, 22:32
- The thing that really bugs me about PoE 35 -
Ragashingo,
2015-07-14, 22:46
- Don't feel bad. They're still not that good. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 10:42
- The ToO primaries rock! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-15, 11:04
- Oh yeah, The Scholar is better, too. I forgot. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 11:47
- Call me crazy... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-15, 12:08
- Destiny guns: YMMV. :P
- Funkmon, 2015-07-15, 12:20
- +1 :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2015-07-15, 12:50
- +1 :)
- I like Wolves' Leash too - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 12:22
- As a self-proclaimed scout rifle guy... - slycrel, 2015-07-15, 19:42
- Destiny guns: YMMV. :P
- Call me crazy... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-15, 12:08
- Oh yeah, The Scholar is better, too. I forgot. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 11:47
- The ToO primaries rock! -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-15, 11:04
- The thing that really bugs me about PoE 35 - someotherguy, 2015-07-15, 11:41
- Don't feel bad. They're still not that good. -
Funkmon,
2015-07-15, 10:42
- The thing that really bugs me about PoE 35 - DreadPirateWes, 2015-07-15, 00:36
- The thing that really bugs me about PoE 35 -
Ragashingo,
2015-07-14, 22:46
- Now that's just not true -
Earendil,
2015-07-14, 22:21
- This & That -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-07-14, 20:08
- Nice pics -
CyberKN,
2015-07-14, 16:45
- On Self Res -
Cody Miller,
2015-07-14, 16:10