+1 (Destiny)
Well put and well articulated. The PvP is the major drag of D2, just as it was the major draw keeping me playing D1. The absence of advanced player control in particular is damning (titan skating, blink for hunters, warlock skating).
Overall, however, I think the fact that in D1 it was possible (however unlikely) to 1v3, whereas in D2 it's simply not, makes a big difference. I don't feel powerful like some kind of space magic god. Rather I feel like just a guy who is really only effective with my other guys around. That would be okay if the rest of the game played like a squad-based combat game, but it doesn't. You can't take cover (not really) and you don't control your spawns. It's incredibly easy to own the middle of some maps and force the enemy spawns to split, which is a huge detriment to the split teams. Somehow the sandbox of D2 got completely borked, probably by trying to be too many things to too many people, and the result is that it's boring.
Complete thread:
- Some Criticism (0) -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-28, 20:08
- Some Criticism (1) - Harmanimus, 2017-11-28, 20:09
- Some Criticism (2) - Harmanimus, 2017-11-28, 20:10
- Some Criticism (3) -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-28, 20:11
- I haven't played the PC version. Anyone agree with this? -
Funkmon,
2017-11-28, 23:36
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
peaksutah,
2017-11-29, 08:46
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 11:21
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 11:24
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree - MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 11:30
- Trials is a billion times easier on PC -
Beorn,
2017-11-29, 11:30
- Get behind me, Satan! - Kermit, 2017-11-29, 11:35
- Stats to prove it -
Beorn,
2017-11-29, 11:41
- Immediately purchases PC + Destiny PC -----> - unoudid, 2017-11-29, 11:47
- Stats to prove it -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 12:04
- And I thought consoles were supposed to be the superior skll - Durandal, 2017-11-29, 12:27
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 11:24
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 11:21
- I'm playing on PS4 and PC and completely agree -
peaksutah,
2017-11-29, 08:46
- I haven't played the PC version. Anyone agree with this? -
Funkmon,
2017-11-28, 23:36
- Some Criticism (end) - Harmanimus, 2017-11-28, 20:12
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-29, 02:21
- +1 - Harmanimus, 2017-11-29, 12:09
- +1 -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-29, 20:03
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-30, 15:16
- +1 -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-30, 17:01
- It is telling... - Harmanimus, 2017-11-30, 17:48
- +1 -
cheapLEY,
2017-11-30, 17:01
- +1 -
Kahzgul,
2017-11-30, 15:16
- Sandbox needs some work -
Durandal,
2017-11-29, 05:30
- Sandbox needs some work -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2017-11-29, 07:06
- Sandbox needs some work - Harmanimus, 2017-11-29, 11:56
- Sandbox needs some work -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 11:42
- Sandbox needs some work -
Durandal,
2017-11-29, 12:19
- Sandbox needs some work -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 12:58
- Sandbox needs some work -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 13:06
- Sandbox needs some work -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 13:08
- Sandbox needs some work - MacAddictXIV, 2017-11-29, 13:11
- Sandbox needs some work -
unoudid,
2017-11-29, 13:08
- Sandbox needs some work -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-11-29, 13:06
- Sandbox needs some work -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 12:58
- Sandbox needs some work -
Durandal,
2017-11-29, 12:19
- Sandbox needs some work -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2017-11-29, 07:06
- Fit and finish -
Kermit,
2017-11-29, 08:02
- Fit and finish -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 11:27
- Fit and finish -
Kermit,
2017-11-29, 11:30
- Those voices weren’t in my head? - Harmanimus, 2017-11-29, 11:43
- Fit and finish -
Kermit,
2017-11-29, 11:30
- Fit and finish -
Tails,
2017-11-29, 19:48
- Not Kermit, but... -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-30, 01:12
- Not Kermit, but... -
Tails,
2017-11-30, 01:38
- Not Kermit, but... -
Tails,
2017-11-30, 19:02
- Yay! - Claude Errera, 2017-11-30, 21:59
- Awesome. - Ragashingo, 2017-12-01, 05:42
- Not Kermit, but... - Kermit, 2017-12-01, 06:29
- Now if we can just address this map exploit... -
Korny,
2017-12-01, 07:04
- Thanks for posting this. - Claude Errera, 2017-12-01, 09:45
- Not Kermit, but... -
Tails,
2017-11-30, 19:02
- Not Kermit, but... -
Tails,
2017-11-30, 01:38
- Not Kermit, but... -
Claude Errera,
2017-11-30, 01:12
- Fit and finish -
Harmanimus,
2017-11-29, 11:27
- You make some really good points. Thanks for the post! - unoudid, 2017-11-29, 09:44
- Great writeup -
Beorn,
2017-11-29, 11:06
- For the best it is 1/3 the original write up. - Harmanimus, 2017-11-29, 11:18