About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] (Gaming)
I caved and bought the Division yesterday. Thanks to a perfect storm of events (late evening nap + sick daughter who wouldn't sleep for more than 20 minutes at a time) I ended up playing the game from about 1am-5am, so I'm starting to get a feel for how it all works. Some initial thoughts jump out to me (mix of positive and negative):
Hope she feels better!
Thanks :)
* No story is better than a really bad storyDestiny has taken plenty of knocks for its lack of story or character development, and rightfully so. While the Division clearly makes an effort to establish characters with motive and personality, and have you develop a relationship with them, I've already found myself wishing the game had a Destiny-like void in that department. The writing in the Division is that bad. I'm talking worst of the worst, overblown dialog that flipflops between painfully cliche and utter nonsense. Making things worse is the fact that the player character never says a word, never reacts to anything these idiots are rambling on about. I've already begun skipping cutscenes because what little info they communicate about the plot just isn't worth sitting through the horrible dialog and voice acting.
I strongly disagree with your assessment of the Division's story. The voice acting is actually very strong (even the detective from Arrow delivers some fun lines, and he normally just chews the scenery), and as you move deeper into the plot, it becomes engrossing.
I need to jump in here with a few examples.
The dialogue is melodramatic and ham-fisted right off the bat, like the conversation at the end of this helicopter ride:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0PxkYr-bQ&t=645
The dialogue here made me roll my eyes so hard I almost fell over:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0PxkYr-bQ&t=967
And this guy right here... this is the moment I tuned out completely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0PxkYr-bQ&t=1880
These clips are all from the first 2 hours or so. I totally get where you're coming from in terms of the game building a story slowly through many different avenues (collectables, NPCs, cutscenes, etc), but with dialogue this bad I just can't buy in to any of it. Just a personal preference thing, but I need to be invested in the characters before I can give a damn about the world or greater scenarios going on. I have similar issues with Destiny. While I find a lot of the game's universe and backstory fascinating, I have a hard time caring about any of it while I'm in the middle of playing, because I have absolutely no attachment to any of the characters involved.
As it stands, my interest in the Division's story is nonexistent. I treat it like a co-op arcade shooter. I run through the missions with a few people, shoot bad guys, grab loot, skip the cutscenes, upgrade my stuff and move on to the next mission. And I'm having lots of fun with it in that way. But if I go in hoping for anything story-related to care about, I hit dialogue like the clips above and my head explodes :)
*edit: Youtube timecode links don't seem to work here... replaced the video embeds with direct links :)
Complete thread:
- Some early thoughts on the Division -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-09, 21:17
- Some early thoughts on the Division - cheapLEY, 2016-03-09, 22:58
- Some early thoughts on the Division -
stabbim,
2016-03-10, 00:24
- I concur - ZackDark, 2016-03-10, 00:47
- My thoughts on your Post. - TheeChaos, 2016-03-10, 10:33
- I love it so far - TheeChaos, 2016-03-10, 10:49
- Some early thoughts -
Funkmon,
2016-03-10, 11:01
- Some early thoughts - cheapLEY, 2016-03-10, 12:11
- Some early thoughts - Cody Miller, 2016-03-10, 14:14
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 01:34
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 01:47
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 02:08
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-11, 07:13
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 08:23
- Exactly, IMHO. -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 12:07
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:34
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 16:03
- Hey, cool down -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-11, 16:08
- Yeah, whoops. - cheapLEY, 2016-03-11, 16:23
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 17:05
- Hey, cool down -
Avateur,
2016-03-11, 20:26
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 21:55
- Hey, cool down - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-11, 22:14
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 21:55
- Hey, cool down -
Avateur,
2016-03-11, 20:26
- Hey, cool down -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-11, 16:08
- Exactly, IMHO. - narcogen, 2016-03-11, 23:30
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 16:03
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:34
- Exactly, IMHO. -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 12:07
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 12:50
- *fistbump* - ProbablyLast, 2016-03-11, 13:05
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. - Kermit, 2016-03-11, 14:28
- But there's so much more! :) - Leviathan, 2016-03-11, 16:08
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 08:23
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-11, 07:13
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 02:54
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 04:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 07:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". - Cody Miller, 2016-03-11, 14:38
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 07:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 04:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 05:03
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". - cheapLEY, 2016-03-11, 16:29
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 05:28
- He's giving you the let's players' reviews by proxy I think. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:43
- Not quite - narcogen, 2016-03-11, 07:05
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 06:57
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:42
- This, for instance, is not - Funkmon, 2016-03-11, 16:14
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 23:35
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-12, 00:10
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-12, 06:09
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 11:51
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ZackDark,
2016-03-12, 14:36
- How dare you. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 14:53
- How dare you. - ZackDark, 2016-03-12, 15:55
- How dare you. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 14:53
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ZackDark,
2016-03-12, 14:36
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 11:51
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-15, 01:13
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-15, 14:52
- This, for instance, is not -
Korny,
2016-03-15, 15:07
- This, for instance, is not - Cody Miller, 2016-03-15, 18:49
- This, for instance, is not -
Korny,
2016-03-15, 15:07
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-15, 14:52
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-12, 06:09
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-12, 00:10
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:42
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Korny,
2016-03-11, 15:05
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 16:04
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:27
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? - Cody Miller, 2016-03-11, 16:48
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 16:04
- He's giving you the let's players' reviews by proxy I think. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:43
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 02:08
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 01:47
- It's okay - someotherguy, 2016-03-10, 12:40
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-10, 17:24
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-10, 19:02
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-03-10, 19:15
- This - cheapLEY, 2016-03-10, 19:34
- +1 - TheeChaos, 2016-03-11, 11:49
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-11, 12:29
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:30
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-11, 16:56
- Is there a screenshot of the skybox? - Funkmon, 2016-03-11, 17:25
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:30
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-03-10, 19:15
- Far Cry Primal language failure and PIE. *long, mb boring* -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 19:22
- 5/7, perfect score, would read again - ZackDark, 2016-03-11, 21:15
- Far Cry Primal language failure and PIE. *long, mb boring* -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-12, 18:37
- Redneck caveman sounds hilarious. - Funkmon, 2016-03-12, 19:23
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-10, 19:02
- I'm having a blast -
Kahzgul,
2016-03-10, 20:09
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-11, 15:15
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] - Kahzgul, 2016-03-11, 16:10
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-11, 15:15