This, for instance, is not (Gaming)
I can defend it as a creative work without feeling the need to pigeonhole it by saying that it is called a "video game" and therefore must behave like other video games.
This is not some edge case blurring the lines between media. It is very clearly a video game, and should absolutely work as such.
Gone Home works as well as it does because it is presented in the interactive medium. I think the idea of "video game" is going away as "walking simulators" and VR experiences are becoming more popular. Would Gone Home work better as a book? I think it would lose some value as a book. I'm sure it could be done, but the ideal way to experience it is as a "video game".
Dear Esther is probably one of the earlier examples. All you do is walk around and trigger sound bytes. Could you do that in a book? Sure. Does it lose value because of the fact that it was presented as a video game (a Source mod, no less?)? No. I think that attitude is why you didn't enjoy Firewatch as much as others.
You have a skewed opinion about what certain things NEED to be. It's an extremely narrow and unpopular opinion, but it's okay that you feel that way.
I'd love to see what you feel about Outlast. It's a great example of a challenging experience that isn't inherently "fun" as you're defenselessly struggling to avoid enemies in the dark while managing a handful of batteries for a few hours. And yet Outlast + Whistleblower is one of my favorite video games of this generation.
Complete thread:
- Some early thoughts on the Division -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-09, 21:17
- Some early thoughts on the Division - cheapLEY, 2016-03-09, 22:58
- Some early thoughts on the Division -
stabbim,
2016-03-10, 00:24
- I concur - ZackDark, 2016-03-10, 00:47
- My thoughts on your Post. - TheeChaos, 2016-03-10, 10:33
- I love it so far - TheeChaos, 2016-03-10, 10:49
- Some early thoughts -
Funkmon,
2016-03-10, 11:01
- Some early thoughts - cheapLEY, 2016-03-10, 12:11
- Some early thoughts - Cody Miller, 2016-03-10, 14:14
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 01:34
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 01:47
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 02:08
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-11, 07:13
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 08:23
- Exactly, IMHO. -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 12:07
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:34
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 16:03
- Hey, cool down -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-11, 16:08
- Yeah, whoops. - cheapLEY, 2016-03-11, 16:23
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 17:05
- Hey, cool down -
Avateur,
2016-03-11, 20:26
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 21:55
- Hey, cool down - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-11, 22:14
- Hey, cool down -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 21:55
- Hey, cool down -
Avateur,
2016-03-11, 20:26
- Hey, cool down -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-11, 16:08
- Exactly, IMHO. - narcogen, 2016-03-11, 23:30
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 16:03
- Exactly, IMHO. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:34
- Exactly, IMHO. -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 12:07
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 12:50
- *fistbump* - ProbablyLast, 2016-03-11, 13:05
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. - Kermit, 2016-03-11, 14:28
- But there's so much more! :) - Leviathan, 2016-03-11, 16:08
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
Kermit,
2016-03-11, 08:23
- In all fairness, that is how forums work. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-11, 07:13
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 02:54
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 04:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 07:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". - Cody Miller, 2016-03-11, 14:38
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
ZackDark,
2016-03-11, 07:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 04:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 05:03
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". - cheapLEY, 2016-03-11, 16:29
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 05:28
- He's giving you the let's players' reviews by proxy I think. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:43
- Not quite - narcogen, 2016-03-11, 07:05
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 06:57
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:42
- This, for instance, is not - Funkmon, 2016-03-11, 16:14
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-11, 23:35
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-12, 00:10
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-12, 06:09
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 11:51
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ZackDark,
2016-03-12, 14:36
- How dare you. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 14:53
- How dare you. - ZackDark, 2016-03-12, 15:55
- How dare you. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 14:53
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ZackDark,
2016-03-12, 14:36
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-12, 11:51
- This, for instance, is not -
narcogen,
2016-03-15, 01:13
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-15, 14:52
- This, for instance, is not -
Korny,
2016-03-15, 15:07
- This, for instance, is not - Cody Miller, 2016-03-15, 18:49
- This, for instance, is not -
Korny,
2016-03-15, 15:07
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-15, 14:52
- I'm just talking in this thread for no real reason. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-12, 06:09
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-12, 00:10
- This, for instance, is not -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 14:42
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Korny,
2016-03-11, 15:05
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 16:04
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:27
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? - Cody Miller, 2016-03-11, 16:48
- Unless it belongs to an objectively, demonstrably bad genre? -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:27
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 16:04
- He's giving you the let's players' reviews by proxy I think. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:43
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 05:18
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-11, 02:08
- Not everything is supposed to be "fun". -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-11, 01:47
- It's okay - someotherguy, 2016-03-10, 12:40
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-10, 17:24
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-10, 19:02
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-03-10, 19:15
- This - cheapLEY, 2016-03-10, 19:34
- +1 - TheeChaos, 2016-03-11, 11:49
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-11, 12:29
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:30
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-11, 16:56
- Is there a screenshot of the skybox? - Funkmon, 2016-03-11, 17:25
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-11, 16:30
- This -
ZackDark,
2016-03-10, 19:15
- Far Cry Primal language failure and PIE. *long, mb boring* -
Funkmon,
2016-03-11, 19:22
- 5/7, perfect score, would read again - ZackDark, 2016-03-11, 21:15
- Far Cry Primal language failure and PIE. *long, mb boring* -
Schedonnardus,
2016-03-12, 18:37
- Redneck caveman sounds hilarious. - Funkmon, 2016-03-12, 19:23
- Trying to Finish FarCry Primal, then jumping into Division -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-10, 19:02
- I'm having a blast -
Kahzgul,
2016-03-10, 20:09
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-11, 15:15
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] - Kahzgul, 2016-03-11, 16:10
- About the story/voice acting [Division videos/spoilers] -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-11, 15:15