Consider the following. (Destiny)
by Ragashingo 
, Official DBO Cryptarch, Wednesday, March 30, 2016, 20:43 (3254 days ago) @ CyberKN
It was because it can directly impact the quality of the user experience.
But will it?
There is now direct pressure on their designers to find a sweet spot between "fun" and "financially viable".
Which is, if you think about it, the same as making the game at all in the first place. Or anything else for that matter. Try and pack in too much "fun" or "usefulness" or "utility" into your game or comic or car or shovel or whatever and you go bankrupt instead of delivering what someone else wants or needs.
All business and creative creation is a tradeoff between "fun" and "financial viability". Are micro transactions more so? Maybe. But let's not go pants on head on fire with statements like:
This means that you can no longer trust Bungie to balance drops according to what is "fun".
Complete thread:
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 17:37
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- Toe over the P2W line -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-30, 17:43
- They require infusion. - Leviathan, 2016-03-30, 17:45
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 19:53
- Toe over the P2W line - Xenos, 2016-03-30, 19:56
- Nope -
Speedracer513,
2016-03-30, 17:45
- Nope -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 19:25
- Nope -
Xenos,
2016-03-30, 19:42
- Nope -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-30, 20:28
- I guess a slippery ladder is a thing?
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Ragashingo,
2016-03-30, 20:30
- Of course it is - ZackDark, 2016-03-30, 20:33
- I guess a slippery ladder is a thing?
- Nope -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-30, 20:28
- Nope -
Vortech,
2016-04-08, 20:16
- Nope - Cody Miller, 2016-04-08, 20:34
- Nope -
Xenos,
2016-03-30, 19:42
- Nope -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 19:25
- No, for a few reasons. - Korny, 2016-03-30, 17:46
- Toe over the P2W line -
General Vagueness,
2016-03-30, 19:54
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 20:03
- Toe over the P2W line - General Vagueness, 2016-04-01, 15:39
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 20:03
- Consider the following. -
CyberKN,
2016-03-30, 20:08
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 20:15
- *shots fired* -
ZackDark,
2016-03-30, 20:21
- *shots fired* -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:22
- I love when people rail on balancing - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 12:00
- *shots fired* -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:22
- *shots fired* -
ZackDark,
2016-03-30, 20:21
- I don't disagree... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-30, 20:28
- Consider the following. -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-30, 20:43
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:14
- Consider the following. - Avateur, 2016-03-31, 00:10
- Consider the following. -
Kermit,
2016-03-30, 21:21
- Consider the following. - Cody Miller, 2016-03-30, 21:23
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
narcogen,
2016-03-30, 22:47
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-30, 23:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-31, 00:48
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 12:49
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 15:23
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Xenos,
2016-03-31, 13:17
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 13:31
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 15:19
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 23:10
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - Xenos, 2016-03-31, 23:14
- They need to explain responsibilities for Bungie teams -
Vortech,
2016-04-08, 20:26
- They need to explain responsibilities for Bungie teams - Xenos, 2016-04-08, 21:10
- I demand an org chart -
narcogen,
2016-04-08, 22:58
- Would a scrapbook suffice? -
Pyromancy,
2016-04-09, 17:09
- Would a scrapbook suffice?
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 12:49
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-31, 00:48
- Sort of what I meant by that. -
narcogen,
2016-03-31, 23:00
- Sort of what I meant by that. - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 23:26
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-30, 23:22
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:14
- Forced to agree. -
narcogen,
2016-03-30, 22:40
- This is confusing... -
Leviathan,
2016-03-30, 23:03
- Yes, mostly... - slycrel, 2016-03-30, 23:16
- This is confusing... -
Leviathan,
2016-03-30, 23:03
- I would agree... -
Korny,
2016-03-30, 22:52
- Missing the point? Or ignoring it? -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:17
- p2w is the subject of this thread... -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-10, 00:30
- But not the post being replied to -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:36
- But not the post being replied to -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-10, 05:15
- But not the post being replied to - someotherguy, 2016-04-11, 13:37
- But not the post being replied to -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-10, 05:15
- But not the post being replied to -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:36
- p2w is the subject of this thread...
- Missing the point? Or ignoring it? -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-30, 23:14
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 12:46
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 15:06
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 16:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:43
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:26
- Consider the following. - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 17:46
- Are you sure?? -
Speedracer513,
2016-03-31, 19:27
- Are you sure?? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:49
- Are you sure?? - Cody Miller, 2016-03-31, 20:23
- Are you sure?? - Kermit, 2016-03-31, 20:40
- Are you sure?? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:49
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:26
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:43
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 16:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 15:06
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 12:46
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 20:15
- Weapons aren't in the sterling boxes, just armor -
petetheduck,
2016-03-30, 22:45
- As one of the most anti-microtransaction people around here -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:05
- As one of the most anti-microtransaction people around here - stabbim, 2016-04-01, 18:55
- I actually thing this is a step away from the line -
Xenos,
2016-03-31, 13:14
- +1 -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 13:17
- +1
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 13:17
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 13:37
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:11
- Found it! - Avateur, 2016-04-04, 23:22
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 13:48
- Posting with linked sources. YOU THA MAN. -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 13:59
- And to add to that... -
Korny,
2016-04-02, 14:15
- And to add to that... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:19
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 14:16
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 14:24
- :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:26
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 15:04
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 15:59
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 17:08
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 18:21
- Also just for the record -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-02, 18:37
- Also just for the record - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 18:42
- Also just for the record - Xenos, 2016-04-02, 22:58
- Also just for the record -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-02, 18:37
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 18:21
- Death by a thousand tiny cuts - Cody Miller, 2016-04-02, 23:46
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 17:08
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 15:59
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 14:24
- Posting with linked sources. YOU THA MAN.
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 13:37
- Toe over the P2W line -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-30, 17:43