
Toe over the P2W line (Destiny)
Chroma is obv. fine, that's a cosmetic. But the taken theme weapons means.... paying real money for weapon drops. So yea.
I actually have a fairly nuanced view of P2W, F2P and such (as my current addiction to Clash Royale connects) but if you are a "NO P2W stuff." In a sense, I wouldn't even by that bothered by it. But I am very bothered by the "NO NEVER GONNA DO P2W!" then slowly sneaking it in.
There is no such thing, either it's in or it's not. Assuming this is basically regular gear (and it's hard to have armor that isn't just regular gear), it's not in. If you think it's to make it less of a shock when it is in, that's fine, but they're taking an awfully long time if that's their plan.
I don't think there's some kind of insidious plan here, but it feels a little little bits of limit testing. Hence the idea of sticking a toe over the line and watching the community react.There are lots of different levels of Pay 2 win; and I base on the relative effectiveness of paying real money to get ahead.
yeah, there are...
Something like clash of clans, where high level of play requires thousands of dollars in investment is one extreme, where as buying legendary armor at light level 3 is the other. It's still "Pay some money to conceivably buy some power" but the possible utility of that power is extremely low, given how meh armor perks are in Destiny.
... and for the armor this is not that at all
All of the gear you can buy seems to have normal perks other than the chromas and it has 3 defense.
The only way you can gain an advantage this way is to dump enough money in to get the exact perk set you want, but in my experience no one cares about non-exotic non-raid armor perks other than ammo storage and weapon reloading, and maybe elemental armor/resistances and a small handful of others, and everyone that cares should already have all those things by now.
I didn't see before you mentioned the weapons. I watched the stream archive yesterday and read comments on it the day it happened and I don't remember seeing anything about weapons in these treasure things. Can you source that?
Complete thread:
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 17:37
- Toe over the P2W line -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-30, 17:43
- They require infusion. - Leviathan, 2016-03-30, 17:45
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 19:53
- Toe over the P2W line - Xenos, 2016-03-30, 19:56
- Nope -
Speedracer513,
2016-03-30, 17:45
- Nope -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 19:25
- Nope -
Xenos,
2016-03-30, 19:42
- Nope -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-30, 20:28
- I guess a slippery ladder is a thing?
- Ragashingo, 2016-03-30, 20:30
- Of course it is - ZackDark, 2016-03-30, 20:33
- I guess a slippery ladder is a thing?
- Nope -
marmot 1333,
2016-03-30, 20:28
- Nope -
Vortech,
2016-04-08, 20:16
- Nope - Cody Miller, 2016-04-08, 20:34
- Nope -
Xenos,
2016-03-30, 19:42
- Nope -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 19:25
- No, for a few reasons. - Korny, 2016-03-30, 17:46
- Toe over the P2W line -
General Vagueness,
2016-03-30, 19:54
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 20:03
- Toe over the P2W line - General Vagueness, 2016-04-01, 15:39
- Toe over the P2W line -
electricpirate,
2016-03-30, 20:03
- Consider the following. -
CyberKN,
2016-03-30, 20:08
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 20:15
- *shots fired* -
ZackDark,
2016-03-30, 20:21
- *shots fired* -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:22
- I love when people rail on balancing - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 12:00
- *shots fired* -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:22
- *shots fired* -
ZackDark,
2016-03-30, 20:21
- I don't disagree... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-30, 20:28
- Consider the following. -
Ragashingo,
2016-03-30, 20:43
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:14
- Consider the following. - Avateur, 2016-03-31, 00:10
- Consider the following. -
Kermit,
2016-03-30, 21:21
- Consider the following. - Cody Miller, 2016-03-30, 21:23
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
narcogen,
2016-03-30, 22:47
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-30, 23:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-31, 00:48
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 12:49
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 15:23
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Xenos,
2016-03-31, 13:17
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 13:31
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 15:19
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 23:10
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) - Xenos, 2016-03-31, 23:14
- They need to explain responsibilities for Bungie teams -
Vortech,
2016-04-08, 20:26
- They need to explain responsibilities for Bungie teams - Xenos, 2016-04-08, 21:10
- I demand an org chart -
narcogen,
2016-04-08, 22:58
- Would a scrapbook suffice?
- Pyromancy, 2016-04-09, 17:09
- Would a scrapbook suffice?
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 12:49
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-31, 00:48
- Sort of what I meant by that. -
narcogen,
2016-03-31, 23:00
- Sort of what I meant by that. - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 23:26
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:22
- Up to the line, not over it (yet) -
cheapLEY,
2016-03-30, 23:22
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 21:14
- Forced to agree. -
narcogen,
2016-03-30, 22:40
- This is confusing... -
Leviathan,
2016-03-30, 23:03
- Yes, mostly... - slycrel, 2016-03-30, 23:16
- This is confusing... -
Leviathan,
2016-03-30, 23:03
- I would agree... -
Korny,
2016-03-30, 22:52
- Missing the point? Or ignoring it? -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:17
- p2w is the subject of this thread...
- Robot Chickens, 2016-04-10, 00:30
- But not the post being replied to -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:36
- But not the post being replied to -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-10, 05:15
- But not the post being replied to - someotherguy, 2016-04-11, 13:37
- But not the post being replied to -
Robot Chickens,
2016-04-10, 05:15
- But not the post being replied to -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:36
- p2w is the subject of this thread...
- Missing the point? Or ignoring it? -
someotherguy,
2016-04-10, 00:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-30, 23:14
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 12:46
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 15:06
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 16:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:43
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:26
- Consider the following. - MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 17:46
- Are you sure?? -
Speedracer513,
2016-03-31, 19:27
- Are you sure?? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:49
- Are you sure?? - Cody Miller, 2016-03-31, 20:23
- Are you sure?? - Kermit, 2016-03-31, 20:40
- Are you sure?? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:49
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:26
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:43
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 16:17
- Consider the following. -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 15:06
- Consider the following. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-31, 12:46
- Consider the following. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-30, 20:15
- Weapons aren't in the sterling boxes, just armor
- petetheduck, 2016-03-30, 22:45
- As one of the most anti-microtransaction people around here -
Avateur,
2016-03-31, 00:05
- As one of the most anti-microtransaction people around here - stabbim, 2016-04-01, 18:55
- I actually thing this is a step away from the line -
Xenos,
2016-03-31, 13:14
- +1
- MacAddictXIV, 2016-03-31, 13:17
- +1
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 13:17
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 13:37
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:11
- Found it! - Avateur, 2016-04-04, 23:22
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 13:48
- Posting with linked sources. YOU THA MAN.
- Ragashingo, 2016-04-02, 13:59
- And to add to that... -
Korny,
2016-04-02, 14:15
- And to add to that... - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:19
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 14:16
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 14:24
- :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 14:26
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 15:04
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 15:59
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 17:08
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 18:21
- Also just for the record -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-02, 18:37
- Also just for the record - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-02, 18:42
- Also just for the record - Xenos, 2016-04-02, 22:58
- Also just for the record -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-02, 18:37
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 18:21
- Death by a thousand tiny cuts - Cody Miller, 2016-04-02, 23:46
- Also just for the record -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 17:08
- Also just for the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-02, 15:59
- Also just for the record -
Xenos,
2016-04-02, 14:24
- Posting with linked sources. YOU THA MAN.
- Something to consider about this "P2W" issue -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-02, 13:37
- Toe over the P2W line -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-03-30, 17:43