
Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers (Destiny)
do I enjoy leveling up in Destiny?
Sometimes.
I do think there is actually a lot of fun playing through story missions on your way up where you don't have all your instant health regen and fanciest grenades and fastest recharges. Makes you fight harder in the way Halo 1's Legendary was tough but also a good fair challenge most of the time.
I don't so much enjoy leveling up the subclass trees where it takes well well beyond a play through of all the content to unlock the final node. For the last couple of months I've been switching my Titan's shader, emblem, and class item to unify them with whichever of the three subclasses I'm using at the time. It's fun having a blue and white Striker with a lightening Mark and a Fist of Havoc emblem... except I can't quite do it with my Defender subclass since I accidentally deleted the Defender themed Mark. So I'll probably be deleting and redoing my Titan (saving all the gear, so it'll just be the re-leveling) and it is going to take beyond forever.
what does the rank and light level system really add to Destiny?
A lot, actually.
Yes, it can and does artificially keep me from some activities. For instance, I can no longer really play Trials because all my Guardians top out around 304. Combined with the pressure to do well I just sorta refuse to force myself on others with a player avatar that is going to do some percentage less damage than I "should." Also, I just completely hated the way Crota's End and especially Skolas made the challenges hard by making it so I couldn't actually play Destiny because the only way to reliably win was to hole up in a corner since every enemy could kill me in two hit... even though I was max level at the time. Difficulty through under leveling was total crap and I will never do a challenge that forces that on me again.
That said, I really like the way that you are never over leveled in Destiny because it means you don't have to tone down your Guardian to play with friends who aren't as far along. Sure, maybe I get my next Super 30 seconds faster or something, but Destiny doesn't let me suck the fun out of other people's games by being all powerful and unkillable. I think that is important in a highly connected game and it fosters team play, especially in Story missions and Strikes. It means that players who don't play a lot or don't have a ton of time on their hands can still be matchmade with any of us high end players and not be bored to tears. Again, very important.
In what ways is Destiny better thanks to RNG?
Almost once a session I comment to someone or someone comments to me about the interesting roll they got on some gun or other. Maybe it's almost done in passing some of the time, but looking back, it's a really neat thing that happens as we agree or disagree on the potential viability of a new roll. Especially when we are able to talk about guns and perks simply by name, both understanding what the other means without having to read off the descriptions.
Now, I absolutely think that high end activities like Raids should do something like reward a full set of armor specific to that Raid as well as a full set of Raid specific weapons. Maybe only the first time per character or something to not be going bonkers with the amount of gear flowing from Raids, but spending a day like I did Vault of Glass or a few hours like Crota's End or King's Fall and only getting some shards and a shader is just stupid. That first run through a Raid would mean so much more if everybody got good rewards instead of some getting a full set of armor (me, on my first VoG run) while others get literally nothing but materials to upgrade gear that the Raid did not give them. I would love to see Raids tie even more strongly into Destiny's story and the Raid rewards be there to put a nice happy exclamation point on completing one of the game's toughest challenges.
Hopefully that helps shine a little Light on an alternative perspective... ;)
Complete thread:
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 14:52
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 15:06
- That would require a fundamentally different type of game.
- Funkmon, 2016-03-31, 15:22
- Finally got back out of jail eh?
- Blackt1g3r, 2016-03-31, 17:33
- heh heh heh :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-31, 17:53
- Does Cody even know? - Blackt1g3r, 2016-03-31, 18:44
- heh heh heh :)
- That would require a fundamentally different type of game.
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 15:20
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 15:23
- They're just different types of games. - Funkmon, 2016-03-31, 15:34
- Thanks! Follow up questions: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 15:31
- Thanks! Follow up questions: -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 15:42
- Thanks! Follow up questions: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 15:54
- It's needed to unify vanguard and crucible.
- Funkmon, 2016-03-31, 15:58
- how so? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 16:04
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 16:07
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 16:52
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:54
- Keeping the ratings separate. - Cody Miller, 2016-03-31, 17:03
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 17:53
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 17:58
- Are you proposing no meaningful increase in damage of guns? -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 18:20
- potentially... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 18:40
- There are problems with that. - Funkmon, 2016-04-01, 02:06
- potentially... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 18:40
- Are you proposing no meaningful increase in damage of guns? -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 18:20
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 17:58
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:54
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 16:52
- Keeping the ratings separate. -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 16:07
- how so? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 16:04
- It's needed to unify vanguard and crucible.
- Thanks! Follow up questions: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 15:54
- Thanks! Follow up questions: -
Funkmon,
2016-03-31, 15:42
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 15:23
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
BeardFade,
2016-03-31, 16:23
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
unoudid,
2016-03-31, 17:19
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 17:50
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor - Blackt1g3r, 2016-03-31, 18:23
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
unoudid,
2016-03-31, 18:38
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor - Kermit, 2016-03-31, 19:59
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
BeardFade,
2016-03-31, 19:51
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 20:11
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor - stabbim, 2016-04-01, 19:27
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 20:11
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
Kermit,
2016-03-31, 17:50
- I want a reliable way to modify weapons and armor -
unoudid,
2016-03-31, 17:19
- I still think . . . - cheapLEY, 2016-03-31, 16:27
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
squidnh3,
2016-03-31, 16:36
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:41
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - Kermit, 2016-03-31, 17:39
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - marmot 1333, 2016-04-01, 16:07
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 17:01
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - stabbim, 2016-04-01, 19:33
- THIS THIS THIS 1000x this -
Claude Errera,
2016-03-31, 21:25
- +1, This is very important.
- slycrel, 2016-03-31, 21:53
- THIS THIS THIS 1000x this - narcogen, 2016-03-31, 22:55
- Question about this point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 23:14
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 02:48
- Question about this point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-01, 04:22
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 15:56
- Question about this point -
marmot 1333,
2016-04-01, 16:23
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 17:21
- Did he punch you?
- Funkmon, 2016-04-01, 20:52
- Don't remember. :(
- Claude Errera, 2016-04-01, 21:22
- Don't remember. :(
- Did he punch you?
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 16:02
- Question about this point -
Korny,
2016-04-04, 16:06
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 16:15
- Question about this point -
marmot 1333,
2016-04-04, 16:23
- Question about this point - Funkmon, 2016-04-04, 16:30
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 16:35
- Question about this point -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-04, 17:18
- Question about this point - Kermit, 2016-04-04, 17:31
- Question about this point - marmot 1333, 2016-04-04, 17:44
- Question about this point -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-04-04, 17:18
- Question about this point -
Korny,
2016-04-04, 17:28
- Question about this point - marmot 1333, 2016-04-04, 17:48
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-04, 18:39
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 19:08
- Question about this point -
stabbim,
2016-04-04, 19:21
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-04, 19:51
- Question about this point - Kermit, 2016-04-04, 19:56
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-04, 19:51
- Question about this point -
stabbim,
2016-04-04, 19:21
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 19:08
- Question about this point -
marmot 1333,
2016-04-04, 16:23
- Question about this point -
Kermit,
2016-04-04, 16:15
- Question about this point -
Korny,
2016-04-04, 16:06
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 17:21
- Question about this point -
marmot 1333,
2016-04-01, 16:23
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 15:56
- Question about this point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-04-01, 04:22
- Question about this point -
Claude Errera,
2016-04-01, 02:48
- +1, This is very important.
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:41
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:37
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:44
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:47
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:49
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:56
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-31, 17:05
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:09
- "... in my opinion" ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-03-31, 18:04
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - stabbim, 2016-04-01, 20:47
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:56
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:49
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
slycrel,
2016-03-31, 16:47
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 16:44
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Kahzgul,
2016-03-31, 16:51
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Kahzgul,
2016-03-31, 23:29
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - Cody Miller, 2016-04-01, 02:34
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Kahzgul,
2016-03-31, 23:29
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 17:17
- Two simple complaints for me. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-03-31, 17:26
- Ayyuuuup.
- Funkmon, 2016-04-01, 02:36
- Ayyuuuup.
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - Leviathan, 2016-03-31, 17:55
- No, no, no, wait, why do I play this game again? - Durandal, 2016-03-31, 18:02
- As someone who has had to level over a dozen(!) Guardians... -
Korny,
2016-03-31, 19:24
- As someone who has had to level over a dozen(!) Guardians... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:40
- I'll take another crack at it, then... - Korny, 2016-03-31, 19:50
- As someone who has had to level over a dozen(!) Guardians... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-03-31, 19:40
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
narcogen,
2016-03-31, 22:47
- Great point. Thanks for that :)
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-01, 13:50
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - Cody Miller, 2016-04-01, 14:07
- Great point. Thanks for that :)
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Ragashingo,
2016-04-01, 02:18
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-04-04, 15:32
- Some thoughts, then some questions for all you DBOers -
Cody Miller,
2016-03-31, 15:06