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I understand, yet don't at the same time. (Destiny)
And are you saying that the parts that need work are degrading the parts that shine to the point of sub par?
Yes.
I just feel like people are so use to what Bungie does well, that they ignore that completely and focus on the annoyances even when comparing it to other games.
Because the annoyances are major things. If a film has excellent cinematography with gorgeous images, but the script, acting, end editing are bad, then the film isn't good is it? You can't just take elements and rate them individually; a video game, like a film, is the cohesive collection of all that.
I can agree with this statement, and answer affirmatively to your question - but I will state that for me, the question isn't applicable in the case of Destiny. The things that don't work for me are TINY compared to the things that do. You're welcome to disagree - but I don't believe that the things that are wrong with Destiny are even in the same LEAGUE of importance as script, acting, and editing are to a movie.
I guess this is where we disagree. I think the problems are huge. For me, these are problems that prevent the world from truly coming alive and making me feel a sense of excitement and wonder about what it contains. And because the art is so great, it's a world that WANTS to come alive. But it can't. The rest of the game is holding it back.
You would have to play it, but the Raid lair felt like what you are describing to me.
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-08, 16:28
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Avateur,
2017-12-08, 18:09
- +1. Sensible and eloquent as always. - Korny, 2017-12-08, 22:05
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Funkmon,
2017-12-08, 22:54
- It is. -
EffortlessFury,
2017-12-09, 14:08
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-10, 18:54
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
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BlackstarBSP,
2017-12-11, 09:08
- When he pours, he reigns...
- kidtsunami, 2017-12-11, 09:50
- Good point. Cocktail, Vanilla Sky, end of bad Cruise movies.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:47
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- Morpheus, 2017-12-11, 12:29
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- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 13:02
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- Harmanimus, 2017-12-11, 13:41
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 14:00
- For shame. I am aghast.
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Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
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Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
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Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
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2017-12-14, 10:17
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2017-12-14, 10:22
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-14, 10:39
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2017-12-14, 10:56
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2017-12-14, 10:39
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2017-12-14, 10:22
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2017-12-14, 10:17
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2017-12-14, 10:33
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Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
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Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
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Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- Director's Cut: 7/10. Normal version: 5/10. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-11, 20:53
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-12, 09:43
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-12, 12:25
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- It has been a theme with him. - BlackstarBSP, 2017-12-12, 19:49
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- For shame. I am aghast.
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- When he pours, he reigns...
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2017-12-09, 14:08
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2017-12-08, 21:22
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2017-12-08, 22:06
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2017-12-09, 06:37
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2017-12-11, 15:07
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- Based on 4 critics. -
Vortech,
2017-12-09, 07:59
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I disagree with the premise. - Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:34
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Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:47
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-12-11, 18:03
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 08:10
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 10:07
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 14:46
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 14:56
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 15:40
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 15:55
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:42
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- MacGyver10, 2017-12-11, 14:29
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 13:28
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- +1
- Claude Errera, 2017-12-12, 19:00
- +1
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- Hot take - Phoenix_9286, 2017-12-11, 09:35