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No Bonus (Destiny)
Nowhere in Destiny 1 or 2 is there a moment that comes close to producing a sense of loss or urgency the way Fohammer's death or the crash landing of your escape pod or failure to save Keys does in Halo. Never does Destiny's story make me ready to run screaming into enemy forces the way the intro to the Silent Cartographer or the landing of the Forward Unto Dawn on the Arc does. In fact, when Destiny sets up moments that have the potential to carry such weight, the writing actively works against it. Cayde gets his arm blown off for comic effect. Views of the grand vistas on Nessus are undercut by one-liners about "Vex Milk".
Didn't somebody here once post a video talking about how the Marvel movies have started undercutting their most important character scenes by undercutting them with untimely attempts at humor? Yeah. Destiny 2 does that a lot.
That sounds like something I'd say.
Humor is actually tough to do right, but I think that the key is to not tell "jokes", but craft the scenario such that a character's natural reactions to a situation or other characters are themselves humorous. As a bonus, this type of humor doesn't get as old as a joke.
I've seen Back to the Future at least 200 times in my life (literally), but the way the characters react to each other is still funny and charming. Seriously look at that film and try to find a "joke". Everything is motivated. I would say very little in Destiny 2 has that kind of motivation, and much of it is simply jokes.
You know what I felt did this pretty well more often than not? ODST. But oops… Joe is gone.
Marvel is really bad at this, and uses 'jokes' in order to make us think the characters are fun and funny and therefore like them. It's not a model I'd really recommend emulating. Comedy isn't the band aid. It's the cookie when you're done baking.
Complete thread:
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-08, 16:28
- No Bonus - Grizzlei, 2017-12-08, 17:27
- No Bonus -
Avateur,
2017-12-08, 18:09
- +1. Sensible and eloquent as always. - Korny, 2017-12-08, 22:05
- It is. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-08, 22:54
- It is. -
EffortlessFury,
2017-12-09, 14:08
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-10, 18:54
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
- It is? -
BlackstarBSP,
2017-12-11, 09:08
- When he pours, he reigns...
- kidtsunami, 2017-12-11, 09:50
- Good point. Cocktail, Vanilla Sky, end of bad Cruise movies.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:47
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- Morpheus, 2017-12-11, 12:29
- Legend
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 13:02
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- Harmanimus, 2017-12-11, 13:41
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 14:00
- For shame. I am aghast.
- Harmanimus, 2017-12-11, 15:47
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:17
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-14, 10:22
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-14, 10:39
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-14, 10:41
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:56
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-14, 11:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-14, 10:39
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-14, 10:22
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:17
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:33
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - Harmanimus, 2017-12-14, 16:16
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- Director's Cut: 7/10. Normal version: 5/10. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-11, 20:53
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-12, 09:43
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-12, 12:25
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- It has been a theme with him. - BlackstarBSP, 2017-12-12, 19:49
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- For shame. I am aghast.
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- When he pours, he reigns...
- It is. -
EffortlessFury,
2017-12-09, 14:08
- No Bonus -
Kahzgul,
2017-12-08, 21:22
- No Bonus -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-08, 22:06
- No Bonus -
Kuga,
2017-12-09, 06:37
- No Bonus - MacGyver10, 2017-12-11, 14:26
- No Bonus -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:07
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:19
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:41
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:45
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:03
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 17:08
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 11:58
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 12:15
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 12:26
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-12, 12:28
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 12:26
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-12, 14:55
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - marmot 1333, 2017-12-13, 10:23
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 12:15
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - Ragashingo, 2017-12-11, 18:18
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:03
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:45
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:41
- No Bonus -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:08
- No Bonus - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 17:11
- No Bonus -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 18:01
- No Bonus - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 19:01
- I agree -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-12, 07:44
- Takeo-3 is my favorite Destiny character. - Ragashingo, 2017-12-12, 08:14
- I agree - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 08:31
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:19
- No Bonus -
Kuga,
2017-12-09, 06:37
- No Bonus -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-08, 22:06
- No Bonus - Schooly D, 2017-12-09, 07:55
- Based on 4 critics. -
Vortech,
2017-12-09, 07:59
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I disagree with the premise. - Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:34
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:47
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-12-11, 18:03
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 08:10
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 10:07
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 14:46
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 14:56
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 15:40
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 15:55
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:42
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- MacGyver10, 2017-12-11, 14:29
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 13:28
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- +1
- Claude Errera, 2017-12-12, 19:00
- +1
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- Hot take - Phoenix_9286, 2017-12-11, 09:35