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No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) (Destiny)
No, I liked it too.
As always seems to be the case, I wish it was deeper. Honestly, this is a story I’d have loved to see explored in a full length campaign. But maybe that’s just because I like the Vex and their aesthetic, and also love the simulation and time travel stuff. I feel like Osiris was wasted a bit.
So, I walked away from the CoO campaign feeling like I don't really need to play another Destiny campaign ever again. And no, I don't mean that in the ragingly negative way that it sounds... because I found the campaign fun. I'm still piecing together my thoughts on why I feel this way. But to me, Bungie's storytelling has just become so surface level, so unsatisfying, that I almost want to see what would happen if they just got it out of the way. Stop treating it like something that matters, because it SO does not.Overall, CoO felt a lot like a mini version of D2; mostly fun campaign that doesn't live up to the glory days of Bungie's past, with a bare-bones "end game" that feels lacking compared to the later days of D1. It feels stuck in an awkward middle ground to me.
Focus would help. Just like Des2ny, we were bouncing around from location to location needlessly. Why couldn't every mission have been on Mercury? Why didn't Ikora join us as an AI companion like the Arbiter / Marines? Those two changes would have helped so much.
Perhaps. The larger issues to me (in terms of story) is that everything is told, and none of it is shown. Ikora tells us she’s grown or changed, while displaying no evidence of either. Osiris is held up as the most notorious and powerful Guardian who ever lived, yet nothing he says or does seems controversial, and he waits until we’ve done all the heavy lifting before showing up to help.
None of this is a huge deal... the bigger deal to me is that Osiris is a character that has been hugely significant in Destiny’s lore. He’s been whispered about and hinted at for 3 years. And now that he finally steps into the spotlight, he is utterly squandered and wasted. One of the recurring comments about Destiny is that there is all this great backstory and lore... if only it were actually in the game! But to me, CoO shows that Bungie is (at the moment) incapable of putting any of that material into the game in a way that remotely lives up to its potential. And THAT realization prevents me from caring about any of it. None of it matters, and at this rate none of it will ever matter.
Again, I know this sounds very negative, and that doesn’t reflect my overall opinion of the expansion. Because it’s still Destiny, and playing Destiny with friends is a blast. It’s just sad that after 2 full games and 6 story-based expansions, I’m still waiting for Bungie to use this universe to tell a story worth caring about.
Complete thread:
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-08, 16:28
- No Bonus - Grizzlei, 2017-12-08, 17:27
- No Bonus -
Avateur,
2017-12-08, 18:09
- +1. Sensible and eloquent as always. - Korny, 2017-12-08, 22:05
- It is. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-08, 22:54
- It is. -
EffortlessFury,
2017-12-09, 14:08
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-10, 18:54
- Nope everyone is wrong but me.
- It is? -
BlackstarBSP,
2017-12-11, 09:08
- When he pours, he reigns...
- kidtsunami, 2017-12-11, 09:50
- Good point. Cocktail, Vanilla Sky, end of bad Cruise movies.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:47
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- Morpheus, 2017-12-11, 12:29
- Legend
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 13:02
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- Harmanimus, 2017-12-11, 13:41
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-11, 14:00
- For shame. I am aghast.
- Harmanimus, 2017-12-11, 15:47
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:17
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-14, 10:22
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-14, 10:39
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-14, 10:41
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:56
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-14, 11:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-14, 10:39
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-14, 10:22
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:17
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 10:33
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman - Harmanimus, 2017-12-14, 16:16
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-14, 15:44
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-14, 11:35
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-13, 22:08
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 21:52
- Ridley:Fantasy as Shumacher:Batman -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:49
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-13, 11:26
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-13, 11:03
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-12, 01:41
- The 1985 TC movie is at 42% on the Tomatometer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 19:50
- Director's Cut: 7/10. Normal version: 5/10. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-11, 20:53
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- Robot Chickens, 2017-12-12, 09:43
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Funkmon, 2017-12-12, 12:25
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- It has been a theme with him. - BlackstarBSP, 2017-12-12, 19:49
- A house divided: Rellekh weighs in -
Robot Chickens,
2017-12-12, 14:57
- Other than Tom Cruise, best actor of all time, yes.
- Tim Curry is the only good of thing about this movie
- For shame. I am aghast.
- Sorry. I mean to say that Legend is astoundingly bad
- You may have to clarify yourself here.
- And Knight And Day. Yuck.
- When he pours, he reigns...
- It is. -
EffortlessFury,
2017-12-09, 14:08
- No Bonus -
Kahzgul,
2017-12-08, 21:22
- No Bonus -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-08, 22:06
- No Bonus -
Kuga,
2017-12-09, 06:37
- No Bonus - MacGyver10, 2017-12-11, 14:26
- No Bonus -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:07
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:19
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:41
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:45
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:03
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 17:08
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 11:58
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 12:15
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 12:26
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-12-12, 12:28
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-12, 12:26
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-12, 14:55
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - marmot 1333, 2017-12-13, 10:23
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 12:15
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) - Ragashingo, 2017-12-11, 18:18
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:03
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:45
- No Bonus (minor CoO spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-11, 15:41
- No Bonus - cheapLEY, 2017-12-11, 17:08
- No Bonus -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:19
- No Bonus -
Kuga,
2017-12-09, 06:37
- No Bonus -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-08, 22:06
- No Bonus - Schooly D, 2017-12-09, 07:55
- Based on 4 critics. -
Vortech,
2017-12-09, 07:59
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I disagree with the premise. - Funkmon, 2017-12-11, 11:34
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:47
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-12-11, 18:03
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 08:10
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 10:07
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
kidtsunami,
2017-12-12, 09:35
- Have you completed Dishonored 1 and 2 yet? -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-12, 08:34
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-11, 17:15
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 16:58
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 15:52
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 15:23
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 14:46
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-11, 14:56
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-11, 12:26
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 12:13
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 10:36
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 09:02
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 15:40
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-12, 15:55
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-11, 08:51
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-11, 11:42
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- MacGyver10, 2017-12-11, 14:29
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 13:28
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- +1
- Claude Errera, 2017-12-12, 19:00
- +1
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Kermit,
2017-12-12, 14:39
- Clarification: he's slept through a chunk of it. -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-12, 13:41
- PICS or it didn't happen!
- I understand, yet don't at the same time. -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-12-11, 08:30
- Based on 4 critics. -
Kermit,
2017-12-10, 22:35
- Hot take - Phoenix_9286, 2017-12-11, 09:35