More a trust issue than a numbers issue. (Destiny)

by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 15:47 (3775 days ago) @ Earendil

They told you the data they used, and have even more data than that. Feel free to call them liars, but don't pretend like they are claiming to use simplified stats that they specifically say they are using sophisticated ones.

I think Bungie probably has better numbers than anything the user base has, and wouldn't really dispute that. What I don't believe, is that they base their decisions purely off those numbers; I think that's the point Beardfade was really trying to make, too. And considering that Bungie's decision-making is decidedly more opaque than their data analysis, I'm inclined to agree with that argument.

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I'm done with Crucible - ChaosSociety, 2015-03-17, 05:07
- I'm happy suros is no longer mandatory - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 10:25
- I'm done with Crucible - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-17, 11:36
- Still not convinced by the AR nerf - someotherguy, 2015-03-17, 14:04
  - Still not convinced by the AR nerf - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:35
    - DYK for life... - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 17:36
    - Exactly - someotherguy, 2015-03-17, 23:40
- I'm done with Crucible - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 14:10
- I've struggled with the extra nerfing to ARs, too - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 14:35
  - This ^^^ - Kahzgul, 2015-03-17, 14:46
  - Yeah, them numbers is BS. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:15
    - BS Example. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:30
      - You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:39
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:54
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:36
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:42
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:51
        
        Just posting to point out TTK =/= DPS - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 00:05
      - TTK isn't the only stat that matters - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 16:29
        
        Very true. Practicality is big. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:37
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:50
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:54
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:58
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:19
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:25
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:48
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:52
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:59
        
        Crit isn't how I would have balanced it - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 23:59
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:08
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-18, 00:15
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:24
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 13:34
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-18, 13:42
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 13:53
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 14:02
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 14:16
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 14:20
        
        I think we should be spastic AR toting friends. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 15:57
        
        + 1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 16:41
        
        I think we should be spastic AR toting friends. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 18:30
        
        I approve of this plan - Durandal, 2015-03-19, 15:46
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:11
    - Yeah, them numbers is BS. - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:35
  - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:28
    - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:38
      - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:43
        
        More a trust issue than a numbers issue. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:47
      - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Xenos, 2015-03-18, 00:35
        
        You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:47
        
        You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Xenos, 2015-03-18, 00:56
        
        *You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 01:03
        
        *You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 16:04
    - The key word was "interpretation" - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 16:20
      - The key word was "interpretation" - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:43
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 17:09
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 17:30
        
        You're the best... around... nobodevgonihavmesaow... - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:45
        
        You're the best... around... nobodevgonihavmesaow... - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 21:38
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 17:45
        
        What is "lethality"? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:09
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - narcogen, 2015-03-18, 03:31
  - I've struggled with the extra nerfing to ARs, too - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:50
- I'm done with Crucible - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:30
- You forgot D - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 02:24
  - You forgot D - Ragashingo, 2015-03-18, 03:25
    - Ha! I hadnt considered this. - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 11:38
    - You forgot D - dogcow, 2015-03-18, 14:04
- Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Ragashingo, 2015-03-19, 01:45
  - Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Korny, 2015-03-19, 02:00
    - Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Claude Errera, 2015-03-19, 14:00

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