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by iconicbanana, C2-H5-OH + NAD, Portland, OR, Tuesday, March 17, 2015, 20:45 (3775 days ago) @ Robot Chickens

One other thought that is being danced around in this conversation: Should Bungie balance around the best players, or the average players? I'll just leave that there because that can be another can of worms.

This is kind of the quandary I wanted to suggest with the "should we just remove AR headshots" question. Durandal raised the excellent point that AR's were really abused by the top players, and that alone is maybe a good enough reason to change them.

I don't know if there's a good answer. Would having ranked playlists solve all of these issues? Or at least crystalize the issues? Or would that potentially make problems like this worse?

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I'm done with Crucible - ChaosSociety, 2015-03-17, 05:07
- I'm happy suros is no longer mandatory - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 10:25
- I'm done with Crucible - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-17, 11:36
- Still not convinced by the AR nerf - someotherguy, 2015-03-17, 14:04
  - Still not convinced by the AR nerf - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:35
    - DYK for life... - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 17:36
    - Exactly - someotherguy, 2015-03-17, 23:40
- I'm done with Crucible - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 14:10
- I've struggled with the extra nerfing to ARs, too - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 14:35
  - This ^^^ - Kahzgul, 2015-03-17, 14:46
  - Yeah, them numbers is BS. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:15
    - BS Example. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:30
      - You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:39
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:54
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:36
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:42
        
        You're going to want to stop posting - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:51
        
        Just posting to point out TTK =/= DPS - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 00:05
      - TTK isn't the only stat that matters - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 16:29
        
        Very true. Practicality is big. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:37
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:50
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:54
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 16:58
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:19
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:25
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:48
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:52
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-17, 17:59
        
        Crit isn't how I would have balanced it - Durandal, 2015-03-17, 23:59
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:08
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-18, 00:15
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:24
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 13:34
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-18, 13:42
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 13:53
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 14:02
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 14:16
        
        It might have been fine with less of a dmg nerf. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 14:20
        
        I think we should be spastic AR toting friends. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 15:57
        
        + 1 - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-18, 16:41
        
        I think we should be spastic AR toting friends. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 18:30
        
        I approve of this plan - Durandal, 2015-03-19, 15:46
        
        Would it have been better to just remove crits for AR's? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:11
    - Yeah, them numbers is BS. - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:35
  - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:28
    - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:38
      - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 15:43
        
        More a trust issue than a numbers issue. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 15:47
      - You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Xenos, 2015-03-18, 00:35
        
        You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 00:47
        
        You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - Xenos, 2015-03-18, 00:56
        
        *You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - iconicbanana, 2015-03-18, 01:03
        
        *You guys and your simplifying of the Bungie statisticians - MacAddictXIV, 2015-03-18, 16:04
    - The key word was "interpretation" - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 16:20
      - The key word was "interpretation" - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 16:43
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - BeardFade, 2015-03-17, 17:09
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 17:30
        
        You're the best... around... nobodevgonihavmesaow... - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:45
        
        You're the best... around... nobodevgonihavmesaow... - Robot Chickens, 2015-03-17, 21:38
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - Earendil, 2015-03-17, 17:45
        
        What is "lethality"? - iconicbanana, 2015-03-17, 20:09
        
        The key word was "interpretation" - narcogen, 2015-03-18, 03:31
  - I've struggled with the extra nerfing to ARs, too - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:50
- I'm done with Crucible - Cody Miller, 2015-03-17, 17:30
- You forgot D - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 02:24
  - You forgot D - Ragashingo, 2015-03-18, 03:25
    - Ha! I hadnt considered this. - someotherguy, 2015-03-18, 11:38
    - You forgot D - dogcow, 2015-03-18, 14:04
- Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Ragashingo, 2015-03-19, 01:45
  - Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Korny, 2015-03-19, 02:00
    - Fancy Airsoft Gun My Foot. - Claude Errera, 2015-03-19, 14:00

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