Welcome to 2001. (Destiny)
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php
Hopson wrote about psychology of game design and making people continue to play games in 2001 here. This was no mystery to many of us.
For me, though, I don't really play the game to get stuff. I play the game because it is fun, then I get stuff as a bonus! Sometimes I put on Halo or Borderlands (both are games I haven't even completed the story for) and think "Why am I playing these games? They're less fun than Destiny." Then I go play Destiny, if I have time. But do it in moderation.
The beauty of Destiny over a game like Halo is you get a different loadout and a huge selection of guns, since they carry with your character, as opposed to being limited by the map. So, you get to play missions again in a totally different way than you might have before. As multiple classes, you get to double, triple, even sextuple that. By playing again, you even get bonuses like possibly getting new guns to vary your playstyle even more! People give Destiny shit because there's so little to the game, but FFS, there was way less in Halo Reach. They had bounties, but what did they do? You got cosmetic gear. Greaaaaat. In Destiny, the bonuses do stuff! Neat! To top it off the 30 seconds of fun is better than any game I know.
The main thing for me, Chris, is shooting the shit with my friends. I signed up for Banana's lagfest later not because I think I'm going to accomplish something, rank up factions, or do bounties, but because the game is something fun to do while chatting with dudes I know. I have only done hardmode Crota a couple times because the last part isn't fun, but I like to help my buddies so I still sign up occasionally.
I'll buy the expansions and Destiny 2 day 1 because I legitimately like the game, and I like playing with friends.
If you were only playing for loot, you were doing it for the wrong reasons. Unfortunately, Bungie counted on this, so they got a lot of gameplay hours from you.
That being said, how the hell are they supposed to suck money out of you when you paid $60 for a game you got 800 hours out of? Every few months dump some expansions which add a lot of fun and variety to the game for a reasonable price? What's malicious about that? They aren't charging you extra, they aren't screwing you, they are literally just making you like the game more.
tl;drComplaining about this is like complaining that Olive Garden puts extra butter in their unlimited salad and breadsticks so you want to eat more of it at a reasonable price.
Complete thread:
- Knew it, Destiny is using technics to ADDICT us -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 18:21
- I don't get what you are mad it. This was OBVIOUS from day 1 -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 18:43
- I don't get what you are mad it. This was OBVIOUS from day 1 - unoudid, 2015-04-02, 19:19
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:20
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:24
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:32
- You clearly don't get my point -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 19:48
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:50
- o_o -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 19:52
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:55
- o_o -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:11
- Like this one. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:14
- Like this one. -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-02, 20:29
- Like this one. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:30
- Like this one. - unoudid, 2015-04-02, 20:38
- Shut up. Your advertisements fail to entice me! - Revenant1988, 2015-04-02, 20:39
- Deal! - DiscipleN2k, 2015-04-03, 11:00
- Like this one. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:30
- Like this one. -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-02, 20:29
- Like this one. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:14
- o_o -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:11
- +1 -
DiscipleN2k,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- -1 - iconicbanana, 2015-04-02, 20:11
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:55
- o_o -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 19:52
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- You clearly don't get my point -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:16
- You clearly don't get my point - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-02, 20:18
- Except Halo DID change your brain - ZackDark, 2015-04-02, 20:19
- You clearly don't get my point -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:16
- You clearly don't get my point - Chewbaccawakka, 2015-04-03, 19:57
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:50
- You clearly don't get my point -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 19:48
- You clearly don't get my point -
Fuertisimo,
2015-04-03, 23:35
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-04, 00:30
- You clearly don't get my point -
Fuertisimo,
2015-04-04, 17:53
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-04, 19:45
- You clearly don't get my point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-04, 20:22
- You clearly don't get my point - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-04, 20:58
- You clearly don't get my point - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-04, 20:59
- You clearly don't get my point -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-04-04, 20:22
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-04, 19:45
- You clearly don't get my point -
Fuertisimo,
2015-04-04, 17:53
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-04, 00:30
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:32
- You clearly don't get my point -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 19:36
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:43
- You clearly don't get my point -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:02
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:06
- You clearly don't get my point -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- THIS. Chris, read this. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:19
- THIS. Chris, read this. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-02, 20:26
- THIS. Chris, read this. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:19
- You don't seem to understand yourself - RC, 2015-04-02, 20:28
- You clearly don't get my point -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- You clearly don't get my point - Revenant1988, 2015-04-02, 20:11
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:06
- You clearly don't get my point - Vortech, 2015-04-02, 23:50
- You clearly don't get my point -
unoudid,
2015-04-02, 20:02
- You clearly don't get my point -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:43
- You clearly don't get my point -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:24
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
CyberKN,
2015-04-02, 19:03
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:16
- There was a question that this wasn't already happening? -
slycrel,
2015-04-02, 19:19
- No but they are manipulating you to get money. and.... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:21
- Not really... This is exactly how gambling works. -
slycrel,
2015-04-03, 01:01
- Which is why there are laws restricting it in many places - scarab, 2015-04-03, 04:29
- Not really... This is exactly how gambling works. -
slycrel,
2015-04-03, 01:01
- No but they are manipulating you to get money. and.... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:21
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:21
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:23
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:27
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:30
- Casinos. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-02, 19:48
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:30
- I have some bad news for you then... -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:05
- I have some bad news for you then... -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 20:10
- I have some bad news for you then... -
Vortech,
2015-04-02, 23:52
- Spaceship Earth needs a cologne. Would buy that in a second. - Funkmon, 2015-04-03, 02:19
- I have some bad news for you then... -
Vortech,
2015-04-02, 23:52
- I have some bad news for you then... -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:10
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:23
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:29
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
Leviathan,
2015-04-02, 21:33
- he is hunky - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-03, 12:40
- How can he even read that laptop in that position! - kidtsunami, 2015-04-03, 17:07
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
Leviathan,
2015-04-02, 21:33
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:29
- Your loss. You're getting robbed at every corner anyway. -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 20:23
- I have some bad news for you then... -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 20:10
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:27
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 19:48
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:59
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
RC,
2015-04-02, 20:58
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. - Cody Miller, 2015-04-02, 21:14
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
RC,
2015-04-02, 20:58
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 20:09
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
Claude Errera,
2015-04-02, 19:59
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:23
- There was a question that this wasn't already happening? -
slycrel,
2015-04-02, 19:19
- BUT I WANT THAT HAWKMOON RUN MORE STRIKES DO MORE RAIDS -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 19:44
- You've got a problem... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-02, 19:47
- On that note... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-02, 19:50
- As someone who doesn't care about completion %... - iconicbanana, 2015-04-02, 19:53
- On that note... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 19:54
- On that note... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-02, 20:03
- On that note... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 20:11
- On that note... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-02, 20:30
- What's that, boy? - CyberKN, 2015-04-02, 20:48
- On that note... -
Cody Miller,
2015-04-02, 20:11
- Nail meet head - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-02, 20:16
- On that note... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-04-02, 20:29
- On that note... -
CyberKN,
2015-04-02, 20:03
- So don't buy in. Financially, I mean. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 19:16
- Welcome to 2001. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 19:44
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:47
- MCC and Pre Sequel. Haven't beaten all the missions. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 19:49
- Gotcha. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:50
- Don't judge me. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 19:51
- Too late. Judged! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:10
- Too late. Judged! -
ZackDark,
2015-04-02, 20:30
- Do you have it on 360? Want to play sometime? -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 20:49
- PC, sorry. And it really didn't click for me - ZackDark, 2015-04-02, 21:24
- Do you have it on 360? Want to play sometime? -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 20:49
- Too late. Judged! -
ZackDark,
2015-04-02, 20:30
- Too late. Judged! -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 20:10
- Don't judge me. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 19:51
- Gotcha. -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:50
- MCC and Pre Sequel. Haven't beaten all the missions. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-02, 19:49
- Welcome to 2001. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-04-02, 20:14
- Of course Olive Garden is charging you more - ZackDark, 2015-04-02, 20:31
- Welcome to 2001. -
Ragashingo,
2015-04-02, 20:34
- Welcome to 2001. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-02, 21:00
- Welcome to 2001. -
Monochron,
2015-04-03, 15:33
- Welcome to 2001. - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-04-03, 16:36
- To be fair, many of us are Bingle superfans. -
Funkmon,
2015-04-04, 05:38
- To be fair, many of us are Bingle superfans. - Ragashingo, 2015-04-04, 19:40
- o_o -
iconicbanana,
2015-04-02, 19:47
- Knew it, Destiny is using technics to ADDICT us -
Kalamari,
2015-04-02, 19:55
- Knew it, Destiny is using technics to ADDICT us - musicalwahine808, 2015-04-03, 10:03
- The game really wouldn't work without a large population. - iconicbanana, 2015-04-02, 20:05
- Knew it, Destiny is using technics to ADDICT us - musicalwahine808, 2015-04-03, 09:40
- Technics = mediocre brand. You can do better, Bungie! -
Kermit,
2015-04-03, 11:31
- Beaten to the punchline... - Quirel, 2015-04-03, 15:26
- Hey, what can you say? Technics are addicting. -
Quirel,
2015-04-03, 15:22
- What's up with all the Technics weaksauce? -
ZackDark,
2015-04-03, 16:02
- Sample bias with a smidge of nostalgia. -
Quirel,
2015-04-03, 16:41
- Dat crane - ZackDark, 2015-04-03, 16:52
- What's up with all the Technics weaksauce? Img -
Vortech,
2015-04-04, 23:50
- This post is the best post ^^^ - iconicbanana, 2015-04-05, 00:42
- Yes. - ZackDark, 2015-04-05, 01:28
- What's up with all the Technics weaksauce? Img - Quirel, 2015-04-05, 03:40
- I've never even heard of that Technics. - Kermit, 2015-04-05, 11:04
- Sample bias with a smidge of nostalgia. -
Quirel,
2015-04-03, 16:41
- What's up with all the Technics weaksauce? -
ZackDark,
2015-04-03, 16:02
- Knew it, Destiny is using technics to ADDICT us - Fuertisimo, 2015-04-03, 23:33
- I don't get what you are mad it. This was OBVIOUS from day 1 -
Revenant1988,
2015-04-02, 18:43