
That was a good read all around. (Destiny)
There was a ton of insight into Bungie and Halo that I've never read before.
Just have to remember that it takes time for this stuff to surface but it does surface eventually.
One of the things that really struck me is just the recurring pattern of Bungie biting off more than it could chew with each new game, with the exception of ODST and parts of Reach.
Logically, it makes sense that those two entries would be the most polished because (as Kermit has said before) they had the hindsight of Halo 3 and a narrow scope to make ODST shine and Reach was just a culmination of lessons learned from H1-H3.
I guess it was surprising to me to read about how unprepared, or ambitious they were for each game and how they were humbled essentially every time.
I knew the stuff about Hoberman's Halo 2 saga. I DIDN'T know that Jones was MIA for much of Halo 3. I didn't know that Staten and O'Donnell were the driving forces for ODST. Which is odd, because Korny hates Staten's writing but ODST is his favorite :P . Go figure! Many other things I didn't know, but no point in listing them all.
You know, we put these guys on pedestals but at the end of the day they are just normal guys... with normal problems and quibbles that we all have in our day to day.
When they mentioned they were doing this stuff at age 20-30 I look at myself and think "What was I doing at 25.....Oh right, PLAYING Halo!" Shit.
It was also neat hearing about the Steve Jobs and Microsoft back story, as well as their acquisition and eventual independence from MS (and being burned out on Halo as a whole, that feeling that we all get when you do something you love and then it becomes work, and you don't love it anymore).
THAT SAID, You'd think that with all they learned about making Halo over the years that the whole starting-over-Destiny-mid-cycle thing wouldn't have happened.... I mean, c'mon. You guys have done this before..... did you not learn from the mistakes? And then I pause to realize that many of those folks left Bungie before that anyway. Hmmm....
Additionally, at times I can't help but wonder if Activison is to them now what MS was for them during Halo. Just a feeling I have sometimes.
I hope to see more stuff like this surface in the future. Especially the Marty\Bungie saga. It just takes time....
Complete thread:
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-05-30, 18:06
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-30, 18:18
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - Blackt1g3r, 2017-05-30, 18:53
- That was a monster. - Claude Errera, 2017-05-30, 20:46
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History -
Revenant1988,
2017-05-30, 21:16
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History, thank the Hoberman! - dogcow, 2017-05-31, 15:39
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Durandal,
2017-05-30, 22:03
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-30, 22:19
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-30, 22:26
- Oh man, that's priceless
- CruelLEGACEY, 2017-05-30, 22:28
- Rofl
- Funkmon, 2017-05-31, 00:50
- Oh man, that's priceless
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
narcogen,
2017-05-30, 23:18
- Mine too
- Blackt1g3r, 2017-05-30, 23:19
- Buy it if money isn't a worry. Great fun. Turn off brain.
- Funkmon, 2017-05-31, 11:33
- +1. Loving Warzone Firefight
- ZackDark, 2017-05-31, 12:54
- +1. So good
- kidtsunami, 2017-05-31, 13:11
- +1. So good
- +1. Loving Warzone Firefight
- Mine too
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Avateur,
2017-05-30, 23:55
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of - Cody Miller, 2017-05-31, 00:17
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-30, 22:26
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of - kidtsunami, 2017-05-31, 11:12
- 343 wants to be really, and I appreciate this, respectful of -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-30, 22:19
- I have to admit that I skimmed the 343 stuff. -
Kermit,
2017-05-31, 00:24
- I have to admit that I skimmed the 343 stuff. - Cody Miller, 2017-05-31, 02:59
- You didn't miss much. -
Quirel,
2017-05-31, 04:23
- You didn't miss much. - Cody Miller, 2017-06-11, 18:44
- I have to admit that I skimmed the 343 stuff. -
electricpirate,
2017-05-31, 14:16
- I have to admit that I skimmed the 343 stuff. - Cody Miller, 2017-05-31, 15:41
- Wish I'd started reading this sooner.
- Quirel, 2017-05-31, 00:43
- I'm going to bookmark this for a toilet read.
- Funkmon, 2017-05-31, 00:51
- You'll rue the day you're in the bathroom long enough.
- Quirel, 2017-05-31, 00:58
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
Funkmon,
2017-05-31, 02:16
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: - narcogen, 2017-05-31, 02:28
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
Kahzgul,
2017-05-31, 05:39
- +1, very plausible. More than just rendering graphics.
- slycrel, 2017-05-31, 06:28
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-05-31, 11:55
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-31, 12:25
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
ZackDark,
2017-05-31, 12:59
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: - Cody Miller, 2017-05-31, 13:26
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
ZackDark,
2017-05-31, 12:59
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-31, 12:25
- +1, very plausible. More than just rendering graphics.
- Hey! I know this thing! -
INSANEdrive,
2017-05-31, 12:31
- Those barrels. So. Much. Explosion.
- MacGyver10, 2017-05-31, 13:28
- (゚ヮ゚) I know, right! Happy to help! ٩(^ᴗ^)۶
- INSANEdrive, 2017-05-31, 14:00
- (゚ヮ゚) I know, right! Happy to help! ٩(^ᴗ^)۶
- Those barrels. So. Much. Explosion.
- True story. Rellekh felt the need to make sure I wasn't dead
- Robot Chickens, 2017-05-31, 17:02
- Couldn't wait. Legs went numb. Question for devs: -
Funkmon,
2017-05-31, 02:16
- You'll rue the day you're in the bathroom long enough.
- Bookmarked in my Destiny tab
- unoudid, 2017-05-31, 00:56
- That was a good read all around. -
Revenant1988,
2017-05-31, 01:53
- That was a good read all around. -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-31, 03:01
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
electricpirate,
2017-05-31, 14:12
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-31, 14:23
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
narcogen,
2017-05-31, 15:03
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-31, 15:31
- I don't really think it's too complicated - Avateur, 2017-06-01, 04:31
- I don't really think it's too complicated - electricpirate, 2017-06-01, 03:25
- I don't really think it's too complicated - cheapLEY, 2017-06-01, 12:08
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-31, 15:31
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
narcogen,
2017-05-31, 15:03
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
Ragashingo,
2017-05-31, 14:23
- That was a good read all around. -
FyreWulff,
2017-06-01, 10:12
- That was a good read all around. -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 15:49
- It's just a basic rule. - FyreWulff, 2017-06-02, 11:48
- That was a good read all around. -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 15:49
- I don't really think it's too complicated -
electricpirate,
2017-05-31, 14:12
- That was a good read all around. -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-31, 03:01
- Ryan Payton on Halo 4 - narcogen, 2017-05-31, 02:18
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - stabbim, 2017-05-31, 14:24
- Do they talk about "Forerunner Tank?"
- Schedonnardus, 2017-05-31, 14:31
- No, but awesomeness ensued
- narcogen, 2017-05-31, 15:00
- No, but awesomeness ensued
- What a bummer. -
cheapLEY,
2017-05-31, 21:33
- Same
- kidtsunami, 2017-06-01, 09:08
- What a bummer. -
Durandal,
2017-06-01, 15:29
- What a bummer. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 15:34
- What a bummer. -
Kermit,
2017-06-01, 16:44
- What a bummer. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 17:49
- What a bummer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-06-01, 18:30
- What a bummer. - cheapLEY, 2017-06-01, 18:33
- Interesting. Seems current Bungie wasn't allowed to comment -
Robot Chickens,
2017-06-01, 18:56
- I wouldn't be surprised if ... - Kermit, 2017-06-01, 19:02
- So just scratch "complete" off the beginning of the title?
- Ragashingo, 2017-06-01, 19:03
- Interesting. Seems current Bungie wasn't allowed to comment - Cody Miller, 2017-06-01, 19:12
- What a bummer. -
Claude Errera,
2017-06-01, 18:30
- +7
- Xenos, 2017-06-01, 18:19
- What a bummer. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 17:49
- What a bummer. -
Kermit,
2017-06-01, 16:44
- What a bummer. -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 15:34
- Same
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 01:36
- My takeaway: - Kahzgul, 2017-06-01, 05:59
- My takeaway: -
Kermit,
2017-06-01, 12:10
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 14:27
- My takeaway: -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 14:59
- My takeaway: - Cody Miller, 2017-06-01, 15:18
- My takeaway: -
Kermit,
2017-06-01, 15:04
- My takeaway: - EffortlessFury, 2017-06-01, 16:38
- My takeaway: -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 15:15
- My takeaway: - EffortlessFury, 2017-06-01, 16:34
- My takeaway: -
Ragashingo,
2017-06-01, 15:46
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 16:33
- My takeaway: -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 16:56
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 17:12
- My takeaway: - Harmanimus, 2017-06-01, 18:31
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 17:12
- My takeaway: -
Ragashingo,
2017-06-01, 16:57
- Read Creativity, Inc. -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-06-01, 17:13
- I own it. :)
- Ragashingo, 2017-06-01, 18:26
- I own it. :)
- Read Creativity, Inc. -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-06-01, 17:13
- My takeaway: -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 16:56
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 16:33
- I wondered just the other day if WMGWWTP is still present? -
Pyromancy,
2017-06-01, 17:34
- Absolutely -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 17:49
- Absolutely -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 18:31
- Absolutely -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 18:44
- Absolutely - dogcow, 2017-06-01, 19:07
- Absolutely -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 18:44
- Absolutely -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 18:31
- Absolutely -
Xenos,
2017-06-01, 17:49
- My takeaway: -
MartyTheElder,
2017-06-02, 00:14
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-02, 00:43
- My takeaway: -
MartyTheElder,
2017-06-02, 01:05
- [Waves] -
Kermit,
2017-06-02, 01:24
- [Waves] back -
MartyTheElder,
2017-06-02, 01:35
- [Waves] back - Cody Miller, 2017-06-02, 03:06
- Stay alert. Set Paypals to "Fund'.
- Quirel, 2017-06-02, 05:24
- Kickstarter sucks also doesn't accept the Paypals
- Pyromancy, 2017-06-02, 05:43
- Starting a Kickstarter to improve Kickstarter. Stay tuned. - Quirel, 2017-06-03, 23:17
- Kickstarter sucks also doesn't accept the Paypals
- [Waves] back -
MartyTheElder,
2017-06-02, 01:35
- [Waves] -
Kermit,
2017-06-02, 01:24
- My takeaway: -
MartyTheElder,
2017-06-02, 01:05
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-02, 00:43
- My takeaway: -
cheapLEY,
2017-06-01, 14:59
- My takeaway: -
EffortlessFury,
2017-06-01, 14:27
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
dogcow,
2017-06-01, 18:22
- This. - Kermit, 2017-06-01, 18:32
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
Blackt1g3r,
2017-06-01, 18:40
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway - dogcow, 2017-06-01, 18:53
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
Ragashingo,
2017-06-01, 18:52
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
dogcow,
2017-06-01, 18:56
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway - Ragashingo, 2017-06-01, 19:02
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
dogcow,
2017-06-01, 18:56
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-01, 19:17
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
dogcow,
2017-06-01, 19:29
- Not like Sillicon Knights right? - Durandal, 2017-06-01, 21:16
- Engine or Content? -
narcogen,
2017-06-01, 23:19
- Engine or Content? -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-11, 18:58
- You're forgetting ZPC.
- Claude Errera, 2017-06-11, 19:07
- It was so hideous I forgot about it.
- Cody Miller, 2017-06-11, 19:24
- It was so hideous I forgot about it.
- You're forgetting ZPC.
- Engine or Content? -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-11, 18:58
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History - My takeaway -
dogcow,
2017-06-01, 19:29
- mental health -
General Battuta,
2017-06-02, 01:19
- mental health +1
- CruelLEGACEY, 2017-06-02, 03:17
- mental health +1
- What a way to run a railroad. - INSANEdrive, 2017-06-02, 03:33
- While we're on the subject -
TheGhostBrigade,
2017-06-02, 10:14
- While we're on the subject -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-02, 12:11
- While we're on the subject - TheGhostBrigade, 2017-06-03, 02:14
- While we're on the subject -
Cody Miller,
2017-06-02, 12:11
- Massive Info Dump on Halo History -
Cody Miller,
2017-05-30, 18:18