I await your writeup (Off-Topic)
by Vortech 
, A Fourth Wheel, Sunday, December 17, 2017, 14:23 (2534 days ago) @ Cody Miller
This guy said it best:
The theme of TLJ could be "it's not about me". Luke thinks he's to blame for Kylo. Rey thinks she's the new chosen one. Poe thinks he can save the day single-handed. The film challenges their assumptions and forces them to overcome their egos and embrace collectivism. Clear arcs.
I'd add Finn in there too, but his was kind of ruined by Rose not letting him have his sacrifice.
OK, but that sounds a lot like saying that they all tried to have agency, and then learned that they didn't. Which is a fine way to plot a movie, but I don't think it counters my point. Especially since I don't remember them collectively achieving things that they didn't individually. It was the individual acts that had the most success.
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2017-12-14, 18:33
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2017-12-14, 21:04
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2017-12-14, 21:12
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2017-12-14, 21:12
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- Seeing it at 10 AM tomorrow. Someone ruin the movie for me.
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Funkmon,
2017-12-14, 22:20
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2017-12-14, 23:15
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2017-12-15, 05:42
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2017-12-15, 08:03
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2017-12-15, 08:12
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CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-15, 09:11
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breitzen,
2017-12-15, 09:24
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marmot 1333,
2017-12-15, 10:52
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breitzen,
2017-12-15, 09:24
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CrazedOne,
2017-12-15, 15:01
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breitzen,
2017-12-15, 08:12
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 21:53
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-16, 22:41
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 09:29
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 12:34
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 14:03
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 14:43
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - Cody Miller, 2017-12-17, 15:07
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 14:43
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 14:03
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 12:34
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 09:29
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Funkmon,
2017-12-17, 01:13
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Vortech,
2017-12-17, 07:22
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - Cody Miller, 2017-12-17, 08:58
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 08:54
- BAH -
Funkmon,
2017-12-17, 20:32
- BAH - cheapLEY, 2017-12-18, 06:44
- BAH -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 12:55
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Funkmon,
2017-12-18, 13:19
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 13:55
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Vortech,
2017-12-18, 14:01
- Give me examples and why they're bad - Cody Miller, 2017-12-18, 15:31
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Ragashingo,
2017-12-18, 14:35
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 15:29
- Only a Sith deal in absolutes. -
Ragashingo,
2017-12-18, 17:36
- Only a Sith deal in absolutes. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-18, 17:47
- Only a Sith deal in absolutes.
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 15:29
- :/ - Funkmon, 2017-12-18, 15:03
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Vortech,
2017-12-18, 14:01
- Give me examples and why they're bad -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 13:55
- BAH *spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-18, 13:51
- BAH *spoilers* -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 13:58
- BAH *spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-18, 14:22
- BAH *spoilers* - Cody Miller, 2017-12-18, 15:27
- BAH *spoilers* - Avateur, 2017-12-18, 18:41
- BAH *spoilers* - Kermit, 2017-12-18, 18:55
- BAH *spoilers* -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-18, 14:22
- BAH *spoilers* -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 13:58
- Give me examples and why they're bad
- BAH -
Funkmon,
2017-12-17, 20:32
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Vortech,
2017-12-17, 07:22
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INSANEdrive,
2017-12-16, 22:41
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TheeChaos,
2017-12-15, 05:42
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squidnh3,
2017-12-15, 08:26
- This. -
Kermit,
2017-12-19, 08:11
- This. - dogcow, 2017-12-19, 08:39
- This. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-19, 10:31
- This. - ManKitten, 2017-12-19, 11:03
- Do what I say, not what I do. - Funkmon, 2017-12-19, 11:19
- This. -
Kermit,
2017-12-19, 13:19
- Some cookies are better than others, for sure. -
dogcow,
2017-12-19, 13:28
- Second viewing required. -
Harmanimus,
2017-12-19, 14:03
- Hmm... interesting... -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-19, 14:42
- After a second viewing - Cody Miller, 2017-12-19, 17:29
- Hmm... interesting...
- This. - Cody Miller, 2017-12-19, 17:01
- Some cookies are better than others, for sure.
- This. -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-19, 13:54
- This. - ManKitten, 2017-12-19, 14:35
- This. -
Kermit,
2017-12-19, 08:11
- Loved it! - SonofMacPhisto, 2017-12-15, 09:59
- ENDING HERE! -
Morpheus,
2017-12-15, 12:38
- canon -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-15, 14:25
- Guess they killed off the radio series as canon then. :(. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-15, 19:39
- "Legends" -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-15, 19:45
- "Legends"
- Guess they killed off the radio series as canon then. :(.
- canon -
marmot 1333,
2017-12-15, 14:25
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Avateur,
2017-12-15, 18:02
- Yeah, this one is my Halo: Reach. - Funkmon, 2017-12-15, 19:47
- I need an expert in apologetics! -
Funkmon,
2017-12-15, 19:47
- I need an expert in apologetics! - ZackDark, 2017-12-15, 22:50
- I need an expert in apologetics! -
Vortech,
2017-12-17, 07:18
- I need an expert in apologetics! - Funkmon, 2017-12-17, 23:48
- Kind of a Mess IMO -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 01:44
- Set up a new subdomain. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-16, 03:16
- Set up a new subdomain. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 11:38
- It is for me. -
Funkmon,
2017-12-16, 14:49
- It is for me.
- Set up a new subdomain. -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 11:38
- Kind of a Mess IMO -
breitzen,
2017-12-16, 05:50
- Kind of a Mess IMO -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 09:18
- Kind of a Mess IMO - breitzen, 2017-12-16, 11:18
- Have you met Cody Miller before? -
Funkmon,
2017-12-16, 11:31
- Kind of a Mess IMO -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-16, 09:18
- But did you enjoy it? - Avateur, 2017-12-16, 07:03
- Set up a new subdomain.
- Absolutely loved it - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-12-16, 08:47
- Loved it. -
yakaman,
2017-12-16, 12:40
- Can’t wait to see it again. And again! -
Oholiab,
2017-12-16, 17:58
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Vortech,
2017-12-17, 07:17
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Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 09:01
- I await your writeup -
Vortech,
2017-12-17, 09:52
- I await your writeup -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 11:41
- I await your writeup -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 12:37
- I await your writeup - breitzen, 2017-12-17, 13:49
- I await your writeup -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 14:06
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
ZackDark,
2017-12-17, 16:20
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
Avateur,
2017-12-17, 17:18
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
CrazedOne,
2017-12-17, 17:21
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore - ZackDark, 2017-12-17, 18:21
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
CrazedOne,
2017-12-17, 17:21
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
Avateur,
2017-12-17, 17:18
- I was holding myself here but I can't anymore -
ZackDark,
2017-12-17, 16:20
- I await your writeup - Vortech, 2017-12-17, 14:23
- I await your writeup -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-17, 12:37
- I await your writeup -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 11:41
- I await your writeup -
Vortech,
2017-12-17, 09:52
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
CougRon,
2017-12-17, 15:14
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - Avateur, 2017-12-17, 17:08
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-17, 09:01
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
ManKitten,
2017-12-17, 17:36
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Ragashingo,
2017-12-17, 17:52
- +1 -
Avateur,
2017-12-17, 18:39
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
ManKitten,
2017-12-17, 20:56
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Funkmon,
2017-12-18, 00:04
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - ManKitten, 2017-12-18, 06:33
- +1 - cheapLEY, 2017-12-18, 06:35
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Ragashingo,
2017-12-18, 06:48
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Avateur,
2017-12-18, 19:10
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-18, 21:25
- ^ -
Funkmon,
2017-12-18, 23:03
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Avateur,
2017-12-19, 05:37
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-19, 06:06
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
breitzen,
2017-12-19, 06:13
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - Cody Miller, 2017-12-19, 12:06
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* - Vortech, 2017-12-20, 13:44
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
breitzen,
2017-12-19, 06:13
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-19, 06:06
- ^
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
cheapLEY,
2017-12-18, 21:25
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Avateur,
2017-12-18, 19:10
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Funkmon,
2017-12-18, 00:04
- Funny Story -
squidnh3,
2017-12-18, 14:16
- LOL -
Funkmon,
2017-12-18, 15:05
- LOL
- +1
- Can someone explain? - Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Ragashingo,
2017-12-17, 17:52
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-17, 20:37
- Steve cheers: "I'm certainly not raving-angry"! -
Vortech,
2017-12-20, 13:46
- It's a slow burn movie - Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2017-12-20, 14:58
- Steve cheers: "I'm certainly not raving-angry"!
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
Claude Errera,
2017-12-18, 09:06
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) - Cody Miller, 2017-12-18, 10:03
- Don't feel bad - Funkmon, 2017-12-18, 11:07
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
Kermit,
2017-12-18, 16:39
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-18, 17:36
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 17:47
- Yea. I know. There was more. Dominos. -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-18, 17:52
- Yea. I know. There was more. Dominos.
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
ManKitten,
2017-12-19, 06:25
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
breitzen,
2017-12-19, 06:32
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
ZackDark,
2017-12-19, 07:53
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
ManKitten,
2017-12-19, 08:31
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) - Vortech, 2017-12-20, 17:00
- I was thinking about that. - Funkmon, 2017-12-19, 09:10
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
ManKitten,
2017-12-19, 08:31
- That'd eat into the Canto Bight folks' profits, wouldn't it? -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-19, 13:58
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
ZackDark,
2017-12-19, 07:53
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
breitzen,
2017-12-19, 06:32
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-18, 17:47
- I slept through parts of it. (yes, real *SP*) -
Vortech,
2017-12-20, 16:58
- I slept through parts of it. (yes, real *SP*) - Kermit, 2017-12-20, 17:54
- I slept through parts of it. (No real *SP*) -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-18, 17:36
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* (Ratings) -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-18, 14:06
- Star Wars: The Last Jedi *SPOILERS* (Ratings) - ManKitten, 2017-12-18, 14:53
- Related - Funkmon, 2017-12-18, 15:13
- Caution: there's evidence of botting in those user ratings. -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-18, 16:18
- So it seems. - INSANEdrive, 2017-12-19, 19:20
- I quite liked it. - cheapLEY, 2017-12-18, 21:17
- Two pieces sum up my feelings on The Last Jedi pretty well -
SonofMacPhisto,
2017-12-19, 17:40
- Agree with both articles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-12-19, 18:10
- Interesting stuff. -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-19, 19:36
- Ugh. - Kermit, 2017-12-20, 18:30
- Agree with both articles
- I hear the Jedi have a chat app now -
Cody Miller,
2017-12-19, 20:23
- I hear the Jedi have a chat app now - Avateur, 2017-12-19, 21:27
- Dunno; I hear it can be a vector for malware. -
Anton P. Nym (aka Steve),
2017-12-20, 05:09
- This pretty much summerises... -
INSANEdrive,
2017-12-19, 20:56
- This pretty much summerises... - Avateur, 2017-12-19, 21:33
- The Last Jedi, second viewing. *SP* - cheapLEY, 2018-01-07, 19:13