Stop. (Gaming)
I just don't like that line of reasoning. It's really close to victim blaming.
This is absolutely, in no way, "victim blaming". Somebody walking down the street who gets ambushed is a victim. A free adult who goes to school, applies to a bunch of companies, goes off to an interview, accepts a job, all the while knowing full well that the company and the industry at large routinely overwork their employees is NOT a victim in any way, shape, or form.
You can like a job and love the work you do at that job, while also acknowledging the exploitative labor practices and wanting to push things forward towards positive change. "This is just how it's always been" and "if you don't like it, leave," are extremely shitty and unhelpful lines of reasoning that just allow these companies to continue getting away this horseshit.
No. It's not about letting them get away with it, its about realizing that the people who willingly choose to work in the industry are equally responsible for creating a solution. Screaming for other people (customers or the government) to step forward and force studios to change is not the right way to go. Employment is a 2-way relationship. Developers are not captive. They entered this relationship willingly. It is ultimately up to them to change the nature of that relationship if they are unhappy with it (and again, I fully agree that they are being treared unfairly).
I think we both want the same thing here. I'm just pointing out that people have individual responsibilities when it comes to the relationships they choose to enter.
Complete thread:
- Overwork -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 09:34
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 10:11
- Stop. - TheeChaos, 2018-10-25, 10:19
- Stop. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 10:31
- Stop. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:38
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 10:40
- Being a good ally. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:57
- Being a good ally. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 11:05
- Stop. - squidnh3, 2018-10-25, 11:38
- Being a good ally. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:57
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:19
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 11:25
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:43
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:00
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 12:08
- Stop. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 12:20
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 12:08
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:00
- Stop. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-10-25, 11:58
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:02
- Stop. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-10-25, 12:12
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
kidtsunami,
2018-10-25, 16:55
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 17:05
- Part of the reason I left the industry - kidtsunami, 2018-10-25, 17:38
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 17:05
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:02
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:43
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 11:25
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 10:40
- Stop. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2018-10-25, 13:32
- Stop. - marmot 1333, 2018-10-26, 01:17
- Not a big deal? -
kidtsunami,
2018-10-25, 17:56
- Not a big deal? -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 19:23
- Not a big deal? - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 22:40
- Yo - kidtsunami, 2018-10-26, 16:55
- Not a big deal? -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 19:23
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-25, 10:47
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 10:53
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 11:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Korny,
2018-10-25, 11:51
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:03
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-25, 13:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Korny, 2018-10-25, 14:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-10-25, 13:36
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 18:52
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-26, 00:11
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 18:52
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:03
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-25, 13:46
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 13:54
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Korny,
2018-10-25, 11:51
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 15:49
- For whatever it's worth . . . - cheapLEY, 2018-10-25, 16:06
- Best Post. - INSANEdrive, 2018-10-25, 16:27
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 16:50
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 17:08
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 17:12
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 17:08
- On coding - kidtsunami, 2018-10-25, 17:46
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 04:47
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-26, 07:36
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. - TheeChaos, 2018-10-26, 07:47
- Lol - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-10-26, 07:58
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-26, 07:36
- How is RDR2 so far? -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 09:10
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 12:48
- Answer here -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 13:33
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:55
- Answer here - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 14:08
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:55
- Answer here -
Korny,
2018-10-26, 13:42
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:57
- Answer here - Korny, 2018-10-26, 14:35
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:57
- Answer here -
EffortlessFury,
2018-10-26, 16:11
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 19:48
- Answer here - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-27, 02:22
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 19:48
- Answer here -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 13:33
- How is RDR2 so far? - Funkmon, 2018-10-26, 14:14
- It’s weird. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-26, 14:16
- It’s weird. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 14:27
- It’s weird. - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 16:40
- It’s weird. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 14:27
- How is RDR2 so far? - cheapLEY, 2018-10-29, 17:42
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 12:48
- Overwork -
narcogen,
2018-10-26, 09:14
- Overwork - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 09:43
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 10:11