Stop. (Gaming)
I think we both want the same thing here. I'm just pointing out that people have individual responsibilities when it comes to the relationships they choose to enter.
I don't disagree with that at all. But that's exactly what is happening. Developers are not advocating for anyone to boycott this game, as the thread has pointed out. They are doing their jobs, but they are bringing the issues they face to light, in an effort to get these companies to better their own labor practices.
I do think this is explicitly what the government should be doing. This is what government is for--to look out for the well-being of its citizens. The US should absolutely have better labor laws. Forced (or pressured) overtime without pay should absolutely be illegal. We're talking about making game, not trying to save a life. And this is also Rockstar. They're not hurting for money, they can afford to tackle these issues.
I was in the military, I know what it's like to be overworked and underappreciated. I worked 12-16 hour shifts with no days off for over a month at a time several times a year. And I didn't have a choice. Sure, I signed that contract willingly, but there's no backing out. There was no quitting. It fucking sucks. We can talk about whether its necessary for a military to operate like that, ostensibly in the name of getting the job done and protecting citizens, but there is absolutely no good reason for a video game company to operate under those conditions, especially one as large and with pockets as deep as Rockstar's.
This isn't just a video game problem, though. That's why I advocate so strongly for better labor laws. I recognize that sometimes there is a job that has to get done, and it requires a time sacrifice. But that sacrifice shouldn't only be at the expense of employees. If you want an employee to stay later than they are supposed to, you should have to pay them for it.
Complete thread:
- Overwork -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 09:34
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 10:11
- Stop. - TheeChaos, 2018-10-25, 10:19
- Stop. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 10:31
- Stop. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:38
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 10:40
- Being a good ally. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:57
- Being a good ally. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 11:05
- Stop. - squidnh3, 2018-10-25, 11:38
- Being a good ally. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-25, 10:57
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:19
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 11:25
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:43
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:00
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 12:08
- Stop. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 12:20
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 12:08
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:00
- Stop. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-10-25, 11:58
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:02
- Stop. - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-10-25, 12:12
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
kidtsunami,
2018-10-25, 16:55
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 17:05
- Part of the reason I left the industry - kidtsunami, 2018-10-25, 17:38
- Also, I'm thankful for PTO, Weekends, etc... -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 17:05
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:02
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 11:43
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 11:25
- Stop. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 10:40
- Stop. -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2018-10-25, 13:32
- Stop. - marmot 1333, 2018-10-26, 01:17
- Not a big deal? -
kidtsunami,
2018-10-25, 17:56
- Not a big deal? -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 19:23
- Not a big deal? - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 22:40
- Yo - kidtsunami, 2018-10-26, 16:55
- Not a big deal? -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 19:23
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-25, 10:47
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 10:53
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 11:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Korny,
2018-10-25, 11:51
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:03
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-25, 13:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Korny, 2018-10-25, 14:29
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
EffortlessFury,
2018-10-25, 13:36
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 18:52
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-26, 00:11
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
electricpirate,
2018-10-25, 18:52
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 12:03
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-25, 13:46
- I pre ordered it because of this post. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 13:54
- I pre ordered it because of this post. -
Korny,
2018-10-25, 11:51
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 15:49
- For whatever it's worth . . . - cheapLEY, 2018-10-25, 16:06
- Best Post. - INSANEdrive, 2018-10-25, 16:27
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-25, 16:50
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 17:08
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. - Cody Miller, 2018-10-25, 17:12
- Good thread. I pre-ordered. -
Kermit,
2018-10-25, 17:08
- On coding - kidtsunami, 2018-10-25, 17:46
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 04:47
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-26, 07:36
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. - TheeChaos, 2018-10-26, 07:47
- Lol - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-10-26, 07:58
- RDR2 HAS REAL SKY PEOPLE. THIS IS NOT A DRILL. -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-10-26, 07:36
- How is RDR2 so far? -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 09:10
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 12:48
- Answer here -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 13:33
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:55
- Answer here - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 14:08
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:55
- Answer here -
Korny,
2018-10-26, 13:42
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:57
- Answer here - Korny, 2018-10-26, 14:35
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 13:57
- Answer here -
EffortlessFury,
2018-10-26, 16:11
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 19:48
- Answer here - EffortlessFury, 2018-10-27, 02:22
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 19:48
- Answer here -
TheeChaos,
2018-10-26, 13:33
- How is RDR2 so far? - Funkmon, 2018-10-26, 14:14
- It’s weird. -
cheapLEY,
2018-10-26, 14:16
- It’s weird. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 14:27
- It’s weird. - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 16:40
- It’s weird. -
Funkmon,
2018-10-26, 14:27
- How is RDR2 so far? - cheapLEY, 2018-10-29, 17:42
- Answer here -
Cody Miller,
2018-10-26, 12:48
- Overwork -
narcogen,
2018-10-26, 09:14
- Overwork - cheapLEY, 2018-10-26, 09:43
- Stop. -
CyberKN,
2018-10-25, 10:11