Absolutely! (Destiny)
I suppose I've been kidding myself all this time that because Bungie's games were nowhere near as bad in this respect as the worst examples in the field, or even of the average mainstream game, that Bungie fans were as well. This thread seems to demonstrate otherwise, unfortunately.
Claude said it much better than I'm about to, but this really bothers me. The implication that I'm a sexist is pretty fucking insulting actually, and it's not something to be thrown around lightly.
Let's break this down for a second, just as an overall summation of this thread.
Bungie is sexist because not enough Raid/Strike bosses are female. But Eris is potentially going to turn bad, and that's also a no-no and sexist. How's that add up?
Bungie is sexist because there aren't enough important female characters. I would argue that statement is totally wrong. The three most important characters in Destiny are the Exo Stranger, Queen Mara Sov, and Eris. The Stranger alerts us to the threat of the Vex, arguably the main driving force of vanilla Destiny's narrative. Mara Sov helps us with that threat by helping us find the Black Garden. Eris alerts us and helps us defeat both Crota and Oryx. You could argue that someone like Zavala or the Speaker is more important by his position at the Tower, but neither of those characters drive the narrative forward at all, so that's not really a point that can stand as far as I'm concerned.
The only really important male character so far, narratively, is Cayde. Seems like Bungie has a pretty good handle on the situation, but maybe I'm missing something.
I guess if you break it down to counting them like cattle, yeah, women are underrepresented in Destiny. But's that pretty much the only way you can reach that conclusion.
Complete thread:
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Avateur,
2015-09-27, 18:12
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-27, 18:15
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Avateur,
2015-09-27, 18:18
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* - Cody Miller, 2015-09-27, 18:23
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* - tadboz, 2015-09-27, 18:25
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Avateur,
2015-09-27, 18:18
- Fun fact: Oryx was originally female. - Ragashingo, 2015-09-27, 18:38
- The SJW whine forum is over at HBO, Avateur... -
Korny,
2015-09-27, 19:14
- The SJW whine forum is over at HBO, Avateur... -
CyberKN,
2015-09-27, 19:18
- The SJW whine forum is over at HBO, Avateur... - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-28, 10:26
- The SJW whine forum is over at HBO, Avateur... -
Avateur,
2015-09-27, 19:28
- Cabal may be genderless. Or Multi-gendered possibly? - someotherguy, 2015-09-27, 22:00
- The SJW whine forum is over at HBO, Avateur... -
CyberKN,
2015-09-27, 19:18
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-27, 19:43
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. - cheapLEY, 2015-09-27, 19:53
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. -
Avateur,
2015-09-27, 20:15
- What the hell is wrong with you?! I'm done. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-27, 20:21
- What the hell is wrong with you?! I'm done. - CrazedOne, 2015-09-27, 20:22
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. -
Doooskey,
2015-09-27, 21:31
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. - petetheduck, 2015-09-27, 21:37
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. -
Avateur,
2015-09-28, 00:36
- So... Is nature sexist? - Doooskey, 2015-09-28, 15:55
- As opposed to all the important male characters? - someotherguy, 2015-09-27, 22:06
- I can't tell if this a joke or not... - R41, 2015-09-28, 05:45
- What the hell is wrong with you?! I'm done. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-27, 20:21
- Yeah, we don't need this around here. -
CrazedOne,
2015-09-27, 20:18
- OMGWTHC Count: 7 - UnrealCh13f, 2015-09-27, 20:19
- Says who? Some numbers. -
narcogen,
2015-09-27, 23:26
- Sexism isn't (just) about numbers. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 00:57
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 01:22
- Absolutely! -
cheapLEY,
2015-09-28, 01:39
- Arbitrary? -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:37
- Arbitrary? -
cheapLEY,
2015-09-28, 11:50
- Arbitrary? -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 12:04
- Arbitrary? -
dogcow,
2015-09-28, 12:38
- Arbitrary? -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:47
- ^ Most excellent one sentence fanfic, right there. - dogcow, 2015-09-28, 17:36
- Arbitrary? -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:47
- Arbitrary? -
dogcow,
2015-09-28, 12:38
- Arbitrary? -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 12:04
- Arbitrary? - Ragashingo, 2015-09-28, 12:00
- Arbitrary? - Cody Miller, 2015-09-28, 14:32
- Arbitrary? -
cheapLEY,
2015-09-28, 11:50
- Arbitrary? -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:37
- Absolutely! -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 02:04
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:47
- Absolutely! - Ragashingo, 2015-09-28, 12:23
- Absolutely! -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 14:40
- Absolutely! - Kermit, 2015-09-28, 15:25
- This. - someotherguy, 2015-09-28, 16:27
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:47
- Absolutely! -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 03:36
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:51
- Absolutely! - Cody Miller, 2015-09-28, 14:24
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:51
- Absolutely! -
Quirel,
2015-09-28, 05:09
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:58
- Absolutely! - Ragashingo, 2015-09-28, 12:44
- Overreaction. - Claude Errera, 2015-09-28, 15:50
- Absolutely! - cheapLEY, 2015-09-28, 17:24
- Absolutely! - Quirel, 2015-09-28, 18:32
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:58
- Absolutely! -
cheapLEY,
2015-09-28, 01:39
- Absolutely! -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 01:22
- Says who? Some numbers. - Blackt1g3r, 2015-09-28, 11:59
- Says who? Some numbers. -
Schooly D,
2015-09-28, 15:46
- Says who? Some numbers. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:50
- Would "it" not be singular gender neutral? - red robber, 2015-09-29, 04:49
- Says who? Some numbers. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:50
- Sexism isn't (just) about numbers. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 00:57
- We've actually had more Female Raid bosses -
someotherguy,
2015-09-27, 22:22
- Not actually, no. -
narcogen,
2015-09-27, 23:41
- Not actually, no. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 02:10
- Not actually, no. -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:50
- Not actually, no. - Ragashingo, 2015-09-28, 12:28
- Not actually, no. -
narcogen,
2015-09-28, 11:50
- Not actually, no. -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 02:10
- Not actually, no. -
narcogen,
2015-09-27, 23:41
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
FyreWulff,
2015-09-28, 07:05
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:54
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-09-28, 16:07
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 16:25
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 16:46
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 16:56
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* - Cody Miller, 2015-09-29, 00:21
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 16:56
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 16:46
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Ragashingo,
2015-09-28, 16:25
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-09-28, 16:07
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-28, 15:54
- Confirmed: SJWs don't play game, just oogle character models - Durandal, 2015-09-28, 10:00
- -1 - Kermit, 2015-09-28, 11:11
- The real reason they don't get their own Raid - someotherguy, 2015-09-28, 15:50
- The cool thing about Destiny - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-09-28, 21:22
- That thing where Bungie's sexist *Raid SP* -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-27, 18:15