I mean, you're not wrong. (Destiny)

by Kermit , Raleigh, NC, Friday, September 23, 2016, 14:11 (2982 days ago) @ cheapLEY

And there's Obfuscation Theatre, aka Destiny, where you try to make up for your lack of story by pretending there is one and then spending most of your time telling everyone how great it is but that they can't see it yet.

Isn't that one of the fundamentals of writing? Even if you don't tell the audience the answer to something, you absolutely should HAVE an answer. It increasingly seems like Destiny doesn't. I'm eager to see where Destiny 2 goes, because so far all the expansions have just seemed like side quests in an RPG.

My writing mentor used to say, "The nature of literature is ambiguity," and I think that's what you mean when you say obfuscation is a one of the fundamentals of writing. I wouldn't call it obfuscation as much as letting readers connect the dots (readers enjoy doing that).

I get the feeling that Kahzgul is mainly talking about how Bungie talks about the story, although there is some of this in-game ("There are stories I could tell you.") And I guess the Grimoire does some overpromising. See how great this story is that happened way back when? A present-tense story just as good is coming any time now!

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Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - BeardFade, 2016-09-22, 18:27
- About hiding it from everyone *SP?* - ZackDark, 2016-09-22, 18:36
  - About hiding it from everyone *SP?* - Xenos, 2016-09-22, 18:44
  - About hiding it from everyone *SP?* - stabbim, 2016-09-23, 11:27
- Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2016-09-22, 18:40
  - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - cheapLEY, 2016-09-22, 18:59
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Kahzgul, 2016-09-22, 19:06
    - But... we still need to finish the refer-a-friend quest! ;) - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-22, 19:14
      - LOL - cheapLEY, 2016-09-22, 19:52
- Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - dogcow, 2016-09-22, 18:44
  - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - BeardFade, 2016-09-22, 18:48
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-22, 19:07
      - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Blackt1g3r, 2016-09-23, 13:01
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Coaxkez, 2016-09-23, 07:41
      - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 13:59
        
        Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Blackt1g3r, 2016-09-23, 15:05
- I mean, you're not wrong. - Kahzgul, 2016-09-22, 19:01
  - I mean, you're not wrong. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-22, 19:16
    - I mean, you're not wrong. - Kahzgul, 2016-09-22, 20:51
      - I mean, you're not wrong. - cheapLEY, 2016-09-22, 21:18
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 14:11
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Avateur, 2016-09-23, 16:02
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 16:13
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Claude Errera, 2016-09-23, 16:20
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 16:26
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 15:15
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Avateur, 2016-09-23, 16:24
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 16:27
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Avateur, 2016-09-23, 16:32
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 16:57
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 17:06
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Claude Errera, 2016-09-23, 17:25
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 17:42
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Claude Errera, 2016-09-23, 17:44
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 17:45
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-23, 17:41
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 17:45
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - uberfoop, 2016-09-23, 18:08
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-23, 18:16
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Kahzgul, 2016-09-23, 20:23
        
        I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 14:17
        
        Source? - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 15:46
        
        Once again, primary source. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 16:07
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 20:00
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 20:22
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 21:31
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 22:17
        
        Thanks Kermit - Pyromancy, 2016-09-23, 22:42
        
        Thanks Kermit - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 22:50
        
        Axiom: It's not what you say, but how you say it. - INSANEdrive, 2016-09-23, 23:00
        
        Thanks Kermit - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 23:04
        
        Thanks Kermit - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 23:13
        
        Thanks Kermit - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 23:27
        
        Thanks Kermit - Cody Miller, 2016-09-24, 00:07
        
        Thanks Kermit - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 23:41
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 22:05
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Avateur, 2016-09-23, 23:36
        
        +1 - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-24, 11:16
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Kermit, 2016-09-25, 15:43
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Avateur, 2016-09-25, 16:07
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Ragashingo, 2016-09-25, 18:02
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-25, 18:43
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Ragashingo, 2016-09-25, 20:26
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Avateur, 2016-09-26, 02:38
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Kermit, 2016-09-26, 15:45
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-26, 17:59
        
        But that contradicts known facts. - Kermit, 2016-09-26, 18:28
        
        That's certainly how it feels - Kahzgul, 2016-09-23, 18:16
      - +1 for your last paragraph - BeardFade, 2016-09-22, 21:20
      - I lol'd at that last paragraph. - Revenant1988, 2016-09-22, 22:30
      - lol - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-23, 09:57
      - I mean, you're not wrong. - Kermit, 2016-09-23, 14:04
  - I mean, you're not wrong. - EffortlessFury, 2016-09-22, 23:32
    - +1 - CyberKN, 2016-09-23, 03:42
  - I mean, you're not wrong. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-24, 03:57
    - RIP Speaker - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 06:05
      - RIP Speaker - Kahzgul, 2016-09-24, 06:07
        
        Shiro feels so odd to me - ZackDark, 2016-09-24, 13:19
        
        Shiro feels so odd to me - Korny, 2016-09-24, 14:32
      - RIP Speaker - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-09-24, 11:22
        
        RIP Speaker - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 15:04
        
        RIP Speaker - Cody Miller, 2016-09-25, 13:26
    - I mean, you're not wrong. - Kahzgul, 2016-09-24, 06:05
  - Losing the plot. - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 06:12
    - Losing the plot. - Kahzgul, 2016-09-24, 15:02
      - Losing the plot. - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 15:11
        
        Losing the plot. - cheapLEY, 2016-09-26, 00:20
        
        +1 - Avateur, 2016-09-26, 02:40
        
        Losing the plot. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-26, 18:37
        
        Losing the plot. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-26, 19:01
        
        Losing the plot. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-26, 21:11
        
        Losing the plot. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-26, 21:13
        
        Losing the plot. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-26, 22:17
        
        Losing the plot. - ProbablyLast, 2016-09-26, 23:56
      - Losing the plot. - Cody Miller, 2016-09-24, 18:07
        
        Cryptarch, also - narcogen, 2016-09-25, 09:50
- You could say RoI has a poor ROI... - Oholiab, 2016-09-22, 19:30
- I can barely even call it a story - Avateur, 2016-09-22, 23:28
- Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 05:05
  - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Harmanimus, 2016-09-23, 07:45
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story *Spoilers* - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-09-23, 10:50
      - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story *More Spoilers* - Xenos, 2016-09-23, 12:42
        
        Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story *More Spoilers* - someotherguy, 2016-09-26, 12:18
        
        Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story *More Spoilers* - Ragashingo, 2016-09-26, 12:28
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - dogcow, 2016-09-23, 13:01
      - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Blackt1g3r, 2016-09-23, 13:40
        
        They are tiny Fallen shanks. - CyberKN, 2016-09-23, 13:59
    - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Ragashingo, 2016-09-23, 16:26
      - Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Ragashingo, 2016-09-25, 07:13
  - Not Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story Telling - dogcow, 2016-09-23, 13:13
  - The real threat - narcogen, 2016-09-24, 15:13
- Underwhelmed with Rise of Iron Story - Cody Miller, 2016-09-23, 14:12
- Lesson Learned - BeardFade, 2016-09-24, 14:38
  - Unchecked for you - Xenos, 2016-09-24, 14:47
    - Ha, Thanks! - BeardFade, 2016-09-24, 22:43
  - Airplane mode - Blackt1g3r, 2016-09-25, 00:45
    - Airplane mode - cheapLEY, 2016-09-25, 21:32
      - "Do Not Disturb" mode. - marmot 1333, 2016-09-26, 17:33
- SIVA in the Grimoire - someotherguy, 2016-09-26, 11:28
  - SIVA in the Grimoire - Cody Miller, 2016-09-26, 18:02
    - SIVA in the Grimoire - petetheduck, 2016-09-26, 21:49

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