There is an alternative (Destiny)
While map design can help, I think some more less then lethal weapons could help as well. The shotgun rush is dependent on the rush and close range. Nightstalker smoke can ruin that, if available and if deployed.
I think if you pushed out AR and HC range, coupled by a small buff to FR charge time and Sidearm range, you could fit a grenade launcher into the special category. Like the "pro-pipe" from reach, it would be a one shot deal, but leave smoke (void), flames (solar) or a flare (ark) upon detonation.
Players could sacrifice offensive capability for some map control and indirect fire. I think destiny definitely needs more indirect fire to flush players out of corners.
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- State of the Crucible -
ChaosSociety,
2016-10-25, 23:14
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- State of the Crucible -
EffortlessFury,
2016-10-25, 23:19
- Yep -
someotherguy,
2016-10-26, 01:43
- Yep -
ZackDark,
2016-10-26, 01:46
- Yep -
someotherguy,
2016-10-26, 01:50
- Yep -
Dundre,
2016-10-28, 09:51
- Not in Trials though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-28, 12:05
- Not in Trials though -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-28, 12:18
- Kudos to your carries
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someotherguy,
2016-10-28, 13:16
- I will say... -
Korny,
2016-10-28, 13:28
- I will say... - Cody Miller, 2016-10-28, 14:30
- I will say... - CyberKN, 2016-10-28, 14:50
- Not gold - someotherguy, 2016-10-28, 16:33
- I will say... -
Korny,
2016-10-28, 13:28
- Not in Trials though - squidnh3, 2016-10-28, 13:40
- Kudos to your carries
- Not in Trials though -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-28, 12:18
- Not in Trials though -
someotherguy,
2016-10-28, 12:05
- Yep -
Dundre,
2016-10-28, 09:51
- Yep -
someotherguy,
2016-10-26, 01:50
- Yep -
ZackDark,
2016-10-26, 01:46
- Yep -
someotherguy,
2016-10-26, 01:43
- State of the Crucible -
Avateur,
2016-10-26, 00:18
- State of the Crucible -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-26, 01:23
- State of the Crucible - Durandal, 2016-10-26, 12:20
- State of the Crucible - Blackt1g3r, 2016-10-26, 12:35
- State of the Crucible -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-26, 01:23
- State of the Crucible - squidnh3, 2016-10-26, 01:17
- I too miss Thorn -
someotherguy,
2016-10-26, 01:40
- I too miss Thorn -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-26, 02:32
- I too miss Thorn -
Avateur,
2016-10-26, 03:08
- I too miss Thorn - cheapLEY, 2016-10-26, 12:15
- I too miss Thorn -
squidnh3,
2016-10-26, 09:20
- I too miss Thorn - Harmanimus, 2016-10-26, 15:17
- I too miss Thorn -
unoudid,
2016-10-26, 12:27
- I cringed -
ZackDark,
2016-10-26, 13:56
- I too miss Thorn -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 15:05
- I too miss Thorn -
unoudid,
2016-10-26, 15:29
- I too miss Thorn -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 15:35
- I too miss Thorn - unoudid, 2016-10-26, 15:58
- I too miss Thorn -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 15:35
- I too miss Thorn -
unoudid,
2016-10-26, 15:29
- I cringed
- Thorn + Firebolt DoT was unstoppable -
Schedonnardus,
2016-10-26, 13:07
- I too miss Thorn -
Avateur,
2016-10-26, 03:08
- I too miss Thorn -
Grizzlei,
2016-10-26, 02:32
- Primaries definitely need a buff. - ProbablyLast, 2016-10-26, 02:23
- State of the Crucible -
unoudid,
2016-10-26, 11:42
- State of the Crucible - Kuga, 2016-10-26, 13:31
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-26, 18:42
- *Looks down at Trespasser in my hand* *scoffs at Shotguns* -
Korny,
2016-10-26, 19:01
- Good Point - Kahzgul, 2016-10-26, 21:55
- It seems like you want and enjoy "sniper camp-fests"? -
Pyromancy,
2016-10-26, 19:11
- It seems like you want and enjoy "sniper camp-fests"? -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-26, 21:40
- Interesting, not sure if fully balanced. Good reply, thanks -
Pyromancy,
2016-10-26, 22:06
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-26, 23:25
- On Titan Skating -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 07:44
- On Titan Skating -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 14:47
- On Titan Skating -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 16:06
- On Titan Skating -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:26
- On Titan Skating - someotherguy, 2016-10-27, 18:09
- On Titan Skating -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:26
- On Titan Skating -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 16:06
- On Titan Skating -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 14:47
- On Titan Skating -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 07:44
- Thanks :) -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-26, 23:25
- I like it -
Mid7night,
2016-10-27, 15:35
- 1 Sniper + 1 Spotter -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-27, 15:45
- Before crazy boost jumping, this was how CoD played -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:32
- Before crazy boost jumping, this was how CoD played -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-27, 19:09
- Anyone with BF4 on Xbone wanna do this? - ZackDark, 2016-10-27, 19:33
- Before crazy boost jumping, this was how CoD played - Kahzgul, 2016-10-27, 21:01
- Helldivers had a great mechanic for Launchers - someotherguy, 2016-10-27, 22:43
- Before crazy boost jumping, this was how CoD played -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-10-27, 19:09
- Before crazy boost jumping, this was how CoD played -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:32
- 1 Sniper + 1 Spotter -
DiscipleN2k,
2016-10-27, 15:45
- Interesting, not sure if fully balanced. Good reply, thanks
- It seems like you want and enjoy "sniper camp-fests"? -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-26, 21:40
- There is an alternative -
Durandal,
2016-10-26, 19:22
- Fusion Rifles with Skip Rounds are great for that - ZackDark, 2016-10-26, 21:00
- There is an alternative - Kahzgul, 2016-10-26, 21:41
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 19:27
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-26, 20:07
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 20:27
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) - Durandal, 2016-10-27, 15:21
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Claude Errera,
2016-10-26, 20:27
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) - Kahzgul, 2016-10-26, 21:53
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-26, 20:07
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) - dogcow, 2016-10-26, 19:37
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-27, 15:41
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:30
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-27, 16:42
- Something something absolutes -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 18:12
- Something something absolutes -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-27, 18:19
- Something something absolutes - Kahzgul, 2016-10-27, 20:59
- Something something absolutes -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-27, 18:19
- Something something absolutes -
someotherguy,
2016-10-27, 18:12
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Harmanimus,
2016-10-27, 16:42
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-27, 16:30
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Cody Miller,
2016-10-28, 11:25
- Maybe not in the low SBMM bracket ;p - someotherguy, 2016-10-28, 12:11
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) -
Ragashingo,
2016-10-28, 14:50
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) - Kahzgul, 2016-10-30, 03:41
- Why Bungie Can't Get it Right (from a design standpoint) - Kahzgul, 2016-10-30, 03:34
- Great points re: map design -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-10-28, 21:51
- Great points re: map design -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-30, 03:47
- Skyshock, First Light, Bastion... - Durandal, 2016-10-30, 12:06
- Great points re: map design -
Kahzgul,
2016-10-30, 03:47
- *Looks down at Trespasser in my hand* *scoffs at Shotguns*
- State of the Crucible -
EffortlessFury,
2016-10-25, 23:19