+1 I'd written up almost this exact response (Destiny)
Then I would say this trailer did a fine job since Destiny is a great action game. Like I said, gameplay is what most people buy an fps off of, not story.
From that angle, I think you're absolutely right. I just don't think it's safe or right to make assumptions like "people don't care about the story or tone, so we don't need to worry about portraying it accurately". Luke S and Mark N have specifically talked about how much effort Bungie has put into creating a compelling story that players will care about this time around. To have a trailer come along and say "nah, that doesn't really matter" is disappointing to me.
I'm not making those assumptions. I'm saying that there is a large LARGE percentage of gamers out there that don't BUY an FPS game primarily for it's story or tone. This is not based on my opinion or anecdotal evidence. Go look at the list of the best selling FPS games of all time. None of the games typically associated with having awesome stories are on the top 5. Even Halo, while Bungie.org is a great example of people who love the story, is not generally associated with its story, but with its multiplayer. The real point I'm trying to make is that Activision SHOULD market their game to those people as well as us who happen to love the world and story behind Destiny. They want a great and fun action FPS, guess what? Destiny 2 can fill that want!
The other thing I always stress whenever these discussions about trailers come up is that these decisions matter because companies put so much time, thought, and money into marketing that you can learn a lot about their priorities from how they choose to market their game. This is something Joe Staten talked about a fair bit on one of the old Bungie Podcasts, regarding the ODST reveal trailer. So when I look at how Destiny 2 is being marketed (the trailers, specifically) I see some severe disconnects. I suspect (but can't prove) that we're seeing some marketing that was primarily handled by Activision (the reveal trailer and the Live Action trailer), and some that had more direct involvement from Bungie (the more traditional space-opera in-engine trailers).
How is that a problem though? Bungie markets to one set of gamers, while Activision markets to another. How does that at all hurt either group's enjoyment of the final product. I'm just not seeing the downside apart from a small percentage of the fanbase not liking TWO out of like 10 trailers and videos released for the game.
The best part about this, is that you get overlap, just look around the forum. I am one of them. I LOVE the trailers Bungie puts out, it sets a tone and a setting that gets me stoked to spend time in that world (don't even get me started about the Zavala trailer). But you know the thing they tend to not cover really well? How FUN Destiny is to play, ESPECIALLY with friends. And you know what does that? The live action/most likely Activision produced trailers.
Complete thread:
- D2 LIve action trailer -
electricpirate,
2017-08-31, 10:09
- D2 LIve action trailer -
Durandal,
2017-08-31, 10:16
- D2 LIve action trailer - Blackt1g3r, 2017-08-31, 10:38
- D2 LIve action trailer -
ManKitten,
2017-08-31, 10:32
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-31, 11:12
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
dogcow,
2017-08-31, 13:37
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 13:40
- Puppies is a rational motivator. - Claude Errera, 2017-08-31, 13:47
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 13:40
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
dogcow,
2017-08-31, 13:37
- D2 LIve action trailer - Malagate, 2017-08-31, 12:07
- Puppies is a rational motivator. -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-31, 11:12
- Good song choice - Blackt1g3r, 2017-08-31, 10:36
- It changes for each country. - bluerunner, 2017-08-31, 10:43
- I agree with CruelLEGACEY. -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 11:21
- ShutUpCayde.Bungie.Org -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 11:38
- ShutUpCayde.Bungie.Org -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:04
- ShutUpCayde.Bungie.Org - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 12:08
- ShutUpCayde.Bungie.Org -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:04
- ShutUpCayde.Bungie.Org -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 11:38
- On par with H3 Believe -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 11:26
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 11:43
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 11:48
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 11:53
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
Durandal,
2017-08-31, 12:10
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 12:29
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 13:04
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? - Harmanimus, 2017-08-31, 12:37
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 12:29
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
ManKitten,
2017-08-31, 12:12
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-31, 12:39
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:43
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-08-31, 12:51
- "Funny" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:51
- For people who have a sense of humor? - Harmanimus, 2017-08-31, 12:54
- It's almost like humor is subjective! - RaichuKFM, 2017-08-31, 12:55
- "Funny" -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-08-31, 12:56
- "Funny" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 13:03
- "Funny" - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 13:07
- "Funny" -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 13:12
- I liked the GameStop ad better, to be honest. - cheapLEY, 2017-08-31, 14:08
- "Funny" -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-08-31, 13:18
- "Funny" - ManKitten, 2017-08-31, 13:39
- Halo 2 "Betcha can't stick it" was great use of humour - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 16:47
- "Funny" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 13:03
- "Funny" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:51
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" - Harmanimus, 2017-08-31, 12:53
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
MacAddictXIV,
2017-08-31, 12:51
- exactly... which makes it even worse. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 13:14
- Not quite comprehensive -
RaichuKFM,
2017-08-31, 13:20
- Not quite comprehensive -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 13:28
- Not quite comprehensive - ManKitten, 2017-08-31, 13:41
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 13:29
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:05
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 16:15
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:35
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 17:32
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:41
- Keyword there is 'every' - ZackDark, 2017-08-31, 17:42
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 17:46
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:52
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response - Xenos, 2017-08-31, 18:01
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:52
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 17:41
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 17:32
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:35
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
Xenos,
2017-08-31, 16:15
- +1 I'd written up almost this exact response -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:05
- Not quite comprehensive -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:15
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 16:25
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:41
- Well, don't join my fireteam if you want to keep it that way -
ZackDark,
2017-08-31, 16:46
- Well, don't join my fireteam if you want to keep it that way - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 16:48
- I sure as hell never yelled "Venus Baby!" -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 16:49
- I sure as hell never yelled "Venus Baby!" -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:52
- With me and my group of friends, yes -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 16:55
- With me and my group of friends, yes - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 16:59
- With me and my group of friends, yes -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 16:55
- I sure as hell never yelled "Venus Baby!" -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:52
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 16:49
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:55
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 17:06
- Not sure what game you've been playing... - Cody Miller, 2017-08-31, 17:10
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 17:20
- /me glares. - Ragashingo, 2017-08-31, 17:28
- Ooooo this cutscene is so serious, it's spoooooky -
kidtsunami,
2017-09-01, 11:35
- Bwahahahahahahahaha -
ZackDark,
2017-09-01, 12:32
- I stopped working, fired up destiny, just to take that shot - kidtsunami, 2017-09-01, 13:28
- Bwahahahahahahahaha -
ZackDark,
2017-09-01, 12:32
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
bluerunner,
2017-08-31, 17:06
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:55
- Not sure what game you've been playing... - Ragashingo, 2017-08-31, 17:25
- Well, don't join my fireteam if you want to keep it that way -
ZackDark,
2017-08-31, 16:46
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2017-08-31, 16:41
- Not quite comprehensive -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 16:27
- Not quite comprehensive - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-08-31, 16:40
- Not sure what game you've been playing... -
kidtsunami,
2017-08-31, 16:25
- Not quite comprehensive -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 13:28
- Not quite comprehensive -
RaichuKFM,
2017-08-31, 13:20
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
Cody Miller,
2017-08-31, 12:43
- This ad isn't for us. We aren't "new here" -
Harmanimus,
2017-08-31, 12:39
- On par with H3 Believe - Korny, 2017-08-31, 12:47
- On par with H3 Believe - dogcow, 2017-08-31, 13:56
- Doesn't that depend on what you thought of Believe? -
Ragashingo,
2017-08-31, 11:43
- Trailer with "My heart will go on" -
Schedonnardus,
2017-08-31, 14:14
- Why has no one cut it with "Look What You Made Me Do" - kidtsunami, 2017-08-31, 16:24
- Trailer with "My heart will go on" - Old Fire Thief, 2017-08-31, 16:49
- Trailer with "My heart will go on" - FaerieFire, 2017-08-31, 17:06
- L.O.L - WOW! - INSANEdrive, 2017-08-31, 17:48
- Guardians fight Elite Honor Guards in D2? - MacGyver10, 2017-08-31, 15:44
- *Sigh*... Just. Noise and Flash. - INSANEdrive, 2017-08-31, 16:54
- On a second watching what actually bothers me the most... -
FaerieFire,
2017-08-31, 17:25
- Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 20:15
- Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! - Cody Miller, 2017-08-31, 20:30
- Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! - FaerieFire, 2017-09-01, 05:06
- Well look at that! FRESH MEAT! ...er uh... Welcome to DBO! -
INSANEdrive,
2017-08-31, 20:15
- Kong: Skull Island -
Cody Miller,
2017-09-02, 06:46
- I didn't know it was a comedy. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-09-02, 08:54
- Overuse of Sabotage is going to ruin it for me. - Vortech, 2017-09-04, 00:11
- D2 LIve action trailer -
Durandal,
2017-08-31, 10:16