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Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) (Gaming)
Why where those characters written that way whereas the female characters are consistently presented as wise and heroic? Because Joseph Campbell has been jettisoned in favor of promoting what I don't hesitate to call toxic identity politics. This is precisely why the film has been so praised as being a product of our time and having important things to say, but this privileging of message over story is also why 40 years from now it will seem, unlike the original Star Wars, embarrassingly dated.
I don’t think the female characters were written as purely wise and heroic.
Eh, close enough for government work, especially in contrast to the male characters. I don't really count Phasma. She's little more than--how shall I say?--toy service.
Heh, I’m with you on Phasma :)
Staying on that track just a bit longer though, what female characters were portrayed as other than wise and heroic in ANH? Or ESB? Or RotJ? I’m purely working from memory here, so I might be missing something, but I don’t remember any female characters in the OT aside from Leia, and a short list of background characters with 1-2 lines (like Luke’s Aunt).
I’m not in favour of doing a head count and making sure male and female characters match up exactly, but the OT was clearly 1-sided in that regard. Now we have some female characters, and they’re all on the good guys’ team. So, like everyone on that team, they’re generally portrayed as wise and/or heroic, but so are most of the male characters. Is the problem that we don’t have a female counterpoint? That the villains are all male?
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- How to make a successful game to movie adaptation -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-18, 10:11
- Exactly.
- Ragashingo, 2018-03-18, 10:28
- So you're saying they shouldn't make The Last of Us movie?
- Kermit, 2018-03-18, 11:22
- I'm torn. -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-18, 11:42
- I'm worried about the timing -
ZackDark,
2018-03-18, 12:22
- When considering adaptations . . . -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 17:23
- When considering adaptations . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 17:32
- When considering adaptations . . . - Harmanimus, 2018-03-19, 17:53
- When considering adaptations . . . -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 17:32
- When considering adaptations . . . -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 17:23
- I'm torn. - Cody Miller, 2018-03-18, 13:03
- I'm worried about the timing -
ZackDark,
2018-03-18, 12:22
- They should not
- Cody Miller, 2018-03-18, 12:48
- +1
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-18, 13:14
- Haven’t even read Cody’s original post, and I agree... - Korny, 2018-03-18, 14:59
- Why not? -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 07:52
- Why not? -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-19, 09:00
- Why not? - Kermit, 2018-03-19, 09:56
- Why not? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 09:03
- Why not? -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 10:31
- Why not? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 11:53
- Why not? -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 12:53
- Why not? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 13:51
- Why not? -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 14:00
- Why not? - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-19, 14:12
- 2 bullets is a lot if you can't hit anything with them.
- Harmanimus, 2018-03-19, 18:14
- Why not? - Kermit, 2018-03-19, 14:29
- Why not? -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 14:00
- Why not? -
Ragashingo,
2018-03-19, 14:09
- Why not? - Kermit, 2018-03-19, 14:44
- Why not? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 13:51
- Not always how the cookie crumbles. - Harmanimus, 2018-03-19, 17:59
- Why not? -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 12:53
- Why not? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 11:53
- Why not? -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 10:31
- Why not? -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-19, 09:00
- +1
- I'm torn. -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-18, 11:42
- One other option -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-03-18, 21:19
- One other option -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-18, 22:11
- Wait, wait, wait... :) -
Ragashingo,
2018-03-18, 22:39
- Wait, wait, wait... :) - Cody Miller, 2018-03-18, 22:57
- One other option -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 05:42
- One other option -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 07:08
- One other option -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-03-19, 08:45
- One other option - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-19, 12:00
- The end of R1 is awesome. You. Me. We gonna fight. :)
- Ragashingo, 2018-03-19, 11:18
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 12:14
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 12:28
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 12:34
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 12:49
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Cody Miller, 2018-03-20, 08:17
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Cody Miller, 2018-03-20, 10:25
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 12:49
- I agree with both of you - ZackDark, 2018-03-19, 12:35
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 12:34
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 13:46
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 14:06
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 15:25
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-19, 18:06
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 18:54
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 02:09
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:07
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 05:22
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:38
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Kermit, 2018-03-20, 06:58
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Ragashingo, 2018-03-20, 08:40
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Cody Miller, 2018-03-20, 18:03
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:38
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 05:22
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 06:31
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 07:11
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 08:43
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 09:35
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-20, 09:48
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Kermit, 2018-03-20, 10:07
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 15:09
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 15:51
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - cheapLEY, 2018-03-20, 17:03
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 18:01
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 18:45
- Taking a break. - Kermit, 2018-03-20, 19:08
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 18:45
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 15:51
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-20, 09:48
- +VIII
- Harmanimus, 2018-03-20, 09:47
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 09:35
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 08:43
- The Last Jedi - cheapLEY, 2018-03-30, 17:36
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 07:11
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 18:26
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Kermit, 2018-03-20, 19:21
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:07
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 02:09
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 18:21
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 19:03
- (Deeper into politics, but I feel needed to be said) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-21, 19:23
- We need examples of good as well as bad, though -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-22, 08:36
- We need examples of good as well as bad, though -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-22, 09:33
- We need examples of good as well as bad, though - CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-22, 09:38
- We need examples of good as well as bad, though -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-22, 09:33
- We need examples of good as well as bad, though -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-22, 08:36
- (Deeper into politics, but I feel needed to be said) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-21, 19:23
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 19:03
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-19, 15:25
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 14:06
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 14:47
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 18:35
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 18:44
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Harmanimus, 2018-03-19, 19:00
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-19, 18:44
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 18:23
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 18:55
- I went into RO with low hopes, doing the same for SOLO. - Harmanimus, 2018-03-21, 19:24
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 18:55
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 18:35
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Harmanimus,
2018-03-19, 18:29
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Funkmon,
2018-03-20, 02:18
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:57
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 07:34
- +1
- Kermit, 2018-03-20, 07:52
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 08:40
- +1
- breitzen, 2018-03-20, 08:45
- -∞
- Cody Miller, 2018-03-20, 10:28
- George Lucas has made two perfect movies. -
Funkmon,
2018-03-20, 10:43
- Any GL film above THX1138? Disgusting.
- Harmanimus, 2018-03-20, 10:50
- Any GL film above American Graffiti? Disgusting. -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 11:57
- THX1138 was influential on my childhood.
- Harmanimus, 2018-03-20, 14:28
- It's a good one.
- Kermit, 2018-03-20, 15:17
- It's a good one.
- THX1138 was influential on my childhood.
- Any GL film above American Graffiti? Disgusting. -
Kermit,
2018-03-20, 11:57
- George Lucas has made two perfect movies. -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 12:22
- George Lucas has made two perfect movies. -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 12:46
- I... I think I can agree with this. All of this.
- Claude Errera, 2018-03-20, 14:46
- ROFL
- CruelLEGACEY, 2018-03-20, 16:18
- ROFL
- I... I think I can agree with this. All of this.
- George Lucas has made two perfect movies. -
cheapLEY,
2018-03-20, 12:46
- Any GL film above THX1138? Disgusting.
- +1
- +1
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-20, 07:34
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-20, 05:57
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Funkmon,
2018-03-20, 02:18
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) - Avateur, 2018-03-24, 22:48
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
Korny,
2018-03-19, 12:28
- Hah... I should explain (Rogue 1 Spoilers) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 12:14
- One other option - Ragashingo, 2018-03-19, 11:38
- One other option -
Blackt1g3r,
2018-03-19, 08:45
- One other option -
CruelLEGACEY,
2018-03-19, 07:08
- Wait, wait, wait... :) -
Ragashingo,
2018-03-18, 22:39
- Actually, I was thinking... -
MacAddictXIV,
2018-03-19, 07:39
- Actually, I was thinking... -
stabbim,
2018-03-19, 09:57
- Actually, I was thinking... - MacAddictXIV, 2018-03-19, 10:17
- Actually, I was thinking... -
stabbim,
2018-03-19, 09:57
- One other option -
Cody Miller,
2018-03-18, 22:11
- Exactly.