Calling people children for taking offense (Gaming)
by Claude Errera 
, Friday, December 11, 2020, 10:42 (1231 days ago) @ Kermit
I'm firmly of the belief that if I create something, what I do with it is my prerogative. It might be stolen from me, it might grow and gain new life based on the actions of others (against my will, even)... but if I want to destroy it, I can. It's mine to destroy.
Not if it becomes a significant part of culture. At that point preservation is the imperative. This is ostensibly why things are supposed to enter the public domain after a time.
If that's your argument, the other side is true as well. BEFORE a piece enters the public domain, its existence is the purview of its creator, not the public. (Lucas clears that bar with the original Star Wars. And Sam and Max does too.)
Whether one can and whether one should are two different things, and Lucas's destruction of the original Star Wars is widely regarded as a travesty, regardless of whether he could. And one should recognize the reasons why it's a travesty, even if you're the creator. Ridley Scott does. George Lucas does not.
Again, I feel like you're telling me (as an ostensible creator) what I'm allowed to do or not do with my creation, and I'm gonna push back really hard on that. You do NOT have that right.
You can be unhappy with what I do - I was as unhappy as you were with what Lucas did to the original trilogy. But you STILL don't have the right to say he can't do it.
I'm not sure the rest of the argument matters to me. Yes, I understand the difference between what I'm allowed to do, and what society thinks I SHOULD do, and I understand that in many cases, I choose to do what society wants me to do, even though I'm ALLOWED to do something else, because I live in that society, and their opinion matters to me. But that's 100% completely separate from you being able to TELL me what to do, if the accepted (legal) rules differ from your desire. I get that you're arguing the 'should' and I'm arguing the 'can' - but that's not going to change.
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- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 00:42
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- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 05:55
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:43
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 10:03
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 10:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 11:24
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cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 12:07
- And also: - ManKitten, 2020-12-10, 12:28
- And also: - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 12:47
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 15:42
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 16:23
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! - Kermit, 2020-12-10, 16:39
- Give me a break. -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:37
- Give me a break. -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 17:04
- Give me a break. - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 17:09
- Give me a break. -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 17:04
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship"
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kidtsunami,
2020-12-10, 18:50
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:29
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" - kidtsunami, 2020-12-11, 06:34
- Self censorship is a whole different bag from "censorship" -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:29
- Oh, you zany kids and your hearty endorsement of censorship! -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 16:23
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation - Cody Miller, 2020-12-10, 12:44
- And also: -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 12:07
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 11:24
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 10:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 10:03
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:43
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 05:56
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 08:18
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:17
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:25
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 09:45
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 09:56
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 11:02
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 12:42
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:31
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:48
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:50
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 09:05
- Perhaps you misunderstood - EffortlessFury, 2020-12-11, 09:09
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 09:05
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:50
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:48
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:38
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:31
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 12:42
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:52
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
squidnh3,
2020-12-10, 09:45
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 09:25
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 09:17
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-10, 08:18
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:10
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:13
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:35
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:40
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:47
- Agree... - cheapLEY, 2020-12-10, 16:58
- Calling people children for taking offense -
kidtsunami,
2020-12-10, 18:43
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:18
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 06:28
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 07:26
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 08:01
- Calling people children for taking offense -
squidnh3,
2020-12-11, 08:23
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:46
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 08:54
- Calling people children for taking offense - squidnh3, 2020-12-11, 09:17
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:46
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:44
- Calling people children for taking offense -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:56
- Calling people children for taking offense - Cody Miller, 2020-12-11, 09:07
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 09:57
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 10:10
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 10:42
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 13:00
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 10:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 10:10
- Calling people children for taking offense -
EffortlessFury,
2020-12-11, 08:56
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 09:36
- Calling people children for taking offense -
squidnh3,
2020-12-11, 08:23
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 08:01
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:35
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 08:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:47
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 09:03
- Calling people children for taking offense - Kermit, 2020-12-11, 09:16
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 09:03
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Cody Miller,
2020-12-11, 08:47
- Calling people children for taking offense -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-11, 08:42
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-11, 07:26
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Claude Errera,
2020-12-11, 06:28
- It's also not even just about offending people... - EffortlessFury, 2020-12-11, 08:44
- Calling people children for taking offense -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 20:18
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:47
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:40
- Agree... -
Kermit,
2020-12-10, 16:35
- Agree... -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-10, 16:13
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? -
cheapLEY,
2020-12-31, 17:47
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? - Kermit, 2021-01-02, 12:59
- Star Wars versions. Despecialized, 4K77? - Cody Miller, 2021-01-02, 13:04
- Remakes, Remasters, and the ethics of preservation -
ManKitten,
2020-12-10, 05:55