
But the new info is still pretty terrible?... (Destiny)
So if Bungie took away the grind, and made it simple to acquire high end gear...the game wouldn't be as enjoyable to you? What does that say about the game once you have that gear?
I wouldn't say that it would be less enjoyable, just different. I love Destiny's moment-to-moment combat (at higher levels... lower levels are a real drag). If you stripped out all the RPG progression mechanics and handed me Destiny: The straightforward Shooter, I think it would be very cool.
But I do really like the meta-narrative that forms in my head as I make my own personal progression through the levels. I love the feeling that comes with fighting tooth and nail to complete a mission, earning a sweet piece of gear as a reward, then coming back a week later with that weapon upgraded and cackling with glee as I use it to rip through the mission that gave me such a tough time before.
Maybe a question to extrapolate from that: if the game is fun because of the challenge of beating the toughest content to get the best gear, is it less fun once you get the best gear? Why is it less fun?
I don't find it less enjoyable. As I said, using the new powerful weapons is part of the fun for me. I think the people who play the game with more of a "completionist" approach are the ones who tend to lose interest as soon as they have the best stuff, because there is nothing new to chase.
I don't really have answers, and I don't know if there are, these are just the questions I think Bungie should be asking themselves, and I don't think they care.
I think it's safe to say they definitely are asking those questions... they just might be settling on answers that don't please everyone ;)
Complete thread:
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 09:50
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 09:53
- Vaulting all exotics -
digital_ronin,
2014-12-04, 10:13
- Vaulting all exotics - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 10:23
- Vaulting all exotics -
digital_ronin,
2014-12-04, 10:13
- They could have communicated this from the beginning -
unoudid,
2014-12-04, 10:21
- They could have communicated this from the beginning - iconicbanana, 2014-12-04, 10:26
- Iron Banner communication was great -
RC,
2014-12-04, 11:02
- Iron Banner communication was great - unoudid, 2014-12-04, 11:28
- Issues communicating - Monochron, 2014-12-04, 11:21
- They could have communicated this from the beginning -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:17
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...
- HavokBlue, 2014-12-04, 12:19
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:58
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 13:02
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 14:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit - DiscipleN2k, 2014-12-04, 15:32
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:17
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:26
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:40
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:50
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... - Leviathan, 2014-12-04, 15:36
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:50
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:40
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:26
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... - dogcow, 2014-12-04, 15:27
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 13:02
- I like progression too... -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-04, 13:03
- I like progression too... - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 14:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:58
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect - Xenos, 2014-12-04, 10:26
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
CyberKN,
2014-12-04, 10:37
- Guns as reward, not tools -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 10:51
- About exotics and levels -
Schedonnardus,
2014-12-04, 11:36
- About exotics and levels -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 13:45
- About exotics and levels -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-04, 14:12
- About exotics and levels - DiscipleN2k, 2014-12-04, 15:20
- About exotics and levels -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-04, 14:12
- About exotics and levels -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 13:45
- Guns as reward, not tools -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:44
- Guns as reward, not tools - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 18:27
- About exotics and levels -
Schedonnardus,
2014-12-04, 11:36
- THIS. -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-04, 12:06
- THIS. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:27
- I do this too.. - ckamp, 2014-12-05, 08:43
- THIS. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:27
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
stabbim,
2014-12-04, 13:14
- If they ever fix the damn thing - iconicbanana, 2014-12-04, 13:16
- Guns as reward, not tools -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 10:51
- What happened to "your weapons will grow with you"? - HavokBlue, 2014-12-04, 12:04
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect - stabbim, 2014-12-04, 13:12
- Weapon sub-classes with new color of damage - scarab, 2014-12-04, 14:08
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 09:53