
But the new info is still pretty terrible?... (Destiny)
I think what I see as artificial inflation, you see as a difficulty curve?
Maybe. I think Destiny's real problem is that there aren't enough really well designed missions in the game. Most of them are decent enough, but there is an overall lack of variety that makes many of them less enjoyable to replay.
Jason Jones has talked about his big regret with Halo; that players replayed those missions over and over and over, for nothing (other than the fun of the gameplay). He wanted Destiny to capture that same enjoyment, but to give the player rewards/stuff to do/goals to work towards while we replay the missions over and over.
Where things went a bit wrong, IMO, is that the average Destiny mission is extremely weak compared to the average Halo mission. They are not as inherently replayable.
So what happens? People ARE replaying the missions like crazy, but why? The answer is of course: Loot. As soon as this dynamic is in place, anything that appears to harm, hinder, or add frustration to the acquisition of loot is seen as a big problem to the player. It's somewhat telling that a new expansion is on the way, and all anyone is talking about is the new gear (and of course the Raid). The new missions themselves are barely a blip on the radar.
I suspect that when Jones was cooking all of this up all those years ago, he was imagining a situation where the new missions would be what we were all excited for, while the loot was just the icing on the cake.
Complete thread:
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 09:50
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 09:53
- Vaulting all exotics -
digital_ronin,
2014-12-04, 10:13
- Vaulting all exotics - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 10:23
- Vaulting all exotics -
digital_ronin,
2014-12-04, 10:13
- They could have communicated this from the beginning -
unoudid,
2014-12-04, 10:21
- They could have communicated this from the beginning - iconicbanana, 2014-12-04, 10:26
- Iron Banner communication was great -
RC,
2014-12-04, 11:02
- Iron Banner communication was great - unoudid, 2014-12-04, 11:28
- Issues communicating - Monochron, 2014-12-04, 11:21
- They could have communicated this from the beginning -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:17
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...
- HavokBlue, 2014-12-04, 12:19
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:58
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 13:02
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 14:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit - DiscipleN2k, 2014-12-04, 15:32
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:17
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:26
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:40
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:50
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... - Leviathan, 2014-12-04, 15:36
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:50
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:40
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 14:26
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... - dogcow, 2014-12-04, 15:27
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...*edit -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 13:02
- I like progression too... -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-04, 13:03
- I like progression too... - CruelLEGACEY, 2014-12-04, 14:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:58
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:37
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 12:24
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:23
- But the new info is still pretty terrible?...
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect - Xenos, 2014-12-04, 10:26
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
CyberKN,
2014-12-04, 10:37
- Guns as reward, not tools -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 10:51
- About exotics and levels -
Schedonnardus,
2014-12-04, 11:36
- About exotics and levels -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 13:45
- About exotics and levels -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-04, 14:12
- About exotics and levels - DiscipleN2k, 2014-12-04, 15:20
- About exotics and levels -
kidtsunami,
2014-12-04, 14:12
- About exotics and levels -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 13:45
- Guns as reward, not tools -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 14:44
- Guns as reward, not tools - Cody Miller, 2014-12-04, 18:27
- About exotics and levels -
Schedonnardus,
2014-12-04, 11:36
- THIS. -
HavokBlue,
2014-12-04, 12:06
- THIS. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:27
- I do this too.. - ckamp, 2014-12-05, 08:43
- THIS. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2014-12-04, 12:27
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
stabbim,
2014-12-04, 13:14
- If they ever fix the damn thing - iconicbanana, 2014-12-04, 13:16
- Guns as reward, not tools -
Cody Miller,
2014-12-04, 10:51
- What happened to "your weapons will grow with you"? - HavokBlue, 2014-12-04, 12:04
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect - stabbim, 2014-12-04, 13:12
- Weapon sub-classes with new color of damage - scarab, 2014-12-04, 14:08
- Upgrade path not as bad, but not perfect -
iconicbanana,
2014-12-04, 09:53