High ROF Autorifles (Destiny)
If you look at the notes, they're getting the least nerfing, of all the auto rifle families.
And no, they don't suck. Why's everybody think they suck? They're for a specific playstyle, that apparently doesn't match your own. Which, you know, shouldn't be a surprise. If you love scout rifles and hand cannons, and someone hands you a bullet hose, you're probably not going to be as good with it. Conversely, I wouldn't be that great with a The Devil You Know if you handed it to me. That doesn't make TDYK bad, it just means it's not the right playstyle for me.
The nature of a ridiculously large magazine (72 bullets on Doctor Nope. I wonder if anyone ever rolled one with Field Scout...) means that it can cover the kinds of mistakes I make pretty well. Perhaps the reaction to that is "Oh, see, it's just a nooby type of gun for people who aren't that great, anyone sufficiently skilled would be able to do better with a slow-firer". I would dispute that. If one thinks skill=headshots, then yeah, I guess I'm not that skilled. But I do alright with that kind of gun. Hell, I've countersniped people using short bursts from Doctor Nope and cover, on occasion, which should be freakin' impossible.
They don't suck. I'm tired of seeing people say they suck. They're very good at what they do, it just so happens that that isn't what you want your guns to do. I could swallow this better if it was "Oh I hate these kinds of guns" and not "These kinds of gun are terrible". And I see a lot of people saying the latter in a lot of places, and I suppose I just finally felt like tossing up a filibuster on the subject instead of just saying "playstyle".
They have relatively low Stability. It's not that hard, for me, to compensate for that. They have a lot of bullets. If you're playing coy around the corner with someone, you can start shooting early and not really waste much. You can tear through mobs with them in PvE, if you do it right; get close, toss a lot of punches/knives/force palms, and shoot up anything and everything. It's great for softening up a swords-wielding Vandal so that you can take 'em out with a well-placed melee, or at least beat them back with the first one to take 'em out with the second. Not so much sword Knights, though. If someone's running away from you in Crucible, you'll probably not be caught needing to reload as often. If you get two ammo boosts via armor, you'll be able to carry 999 bullets, and pick up a ridiculous amount with every pack.
So, maybe, just maybe, it's not the guns, it's you.
Complete thread:
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
JDQuackers,
2015-02-05, 12:53
- more shotgun range nerfs -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-02-05, 12:56
- Agreed. - Revenant1988, 2015-02-05, 13:21
- Stranger's Gun -
Blackt1g3r,
2015-02-05, 13:00
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 13:03
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:20
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 13:23
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:25
- There's a reason for that... -
Korny,
2015-02-06, 02:01
- There's a reason for that... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 10:12
- There's a reason for that... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:21
- There's a reason for that... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:56
- There's a reason for that... - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 22:40
- There's a reason for that... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 13:56
- There's a reason for that... -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:21
- There's a reason for that... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 10:12
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 13:23
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:20
- Best gun you'll have for a while @20. -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 13:03
- So is this a Nerf to universal remote? -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-02-05, 13:04
- So is this a Nerf to universal remote? - digital_ronin, 2015-02-05, 13:32
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 13:09
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:15
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 13:30
- Knowing how these perks go they'll cancel each other out... -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-05, 14:31
- They shouldn't - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 18:28
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Pfhor,
2015-02-05, 15:16
- Shotguns need guaranteed stagger in PvE - Kahzgul, 2015-02-05, 21:15
- PvE Shotguns -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 13:26
- PvE Shotguns -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:33
- PvE Shotguns -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 13:57
- PvE Shotguns -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:41
- PvE Shotguns -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 15:56
- PvE Shotguns -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 16:30
- Same thing happens after the Templar. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 18:11
- and after Gatekeepers -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 18:30
- and after gorgons... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-02-05, 18:53
- and after Gatekeepers -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 18:30
- Same thing happens after the Templar. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 18:11
- PvE Shotguns -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 16:30
- PvE Shotguns -
dogcow,
2015-02-05, 16:05
- PvE Shotguns -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 16:30
- PvE Shotguns - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 19:41
- PvE Shotguns -
Speedracer513,
2015-02-05, 16:30
- PvE Shotguns -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 15:56
- PvE Shotguns -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:41
- PvE Shotguns -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 13:57
- PvE Shotguns -
SonofMacPhisto,
2015-02-05, 16:16
- PvE Shotguns - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 10:07
- PvE Shotguns -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:33
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:15
- Please don't nerf my Pocket Infinity! - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-05, 13:11
- Don't understand -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:19
- Don't understand -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 13:36
- Don't understand - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 14:24
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... -
slycrel,
2015-02-05, 14:31
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 14:34
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:43
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-02-05, 18:41
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:43
- Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-05, 14:34
- Don't understand - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:34
- Don't understand -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 13:36
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
BeardFade,
2015-02-05, 13:21
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-05, 14:36
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:50
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 15:57
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 16:03
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:50
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - Xenos, 2015-02-05, 17:10
- Sandbox Update coming soonish -
Ragashingo,
2015-02-05, 14:36
- I like these changes! -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-02-05, 13:24
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:36
- High ROF Autorifles -
digital_ronin,
2015-02-05, 13:44
- I agree with all of this. -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 13:47
- Although, on reflection... - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 14:10
- High ROF Autorifles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 14:08
- I no rite? - Korny, 2015-02-05, 14:13
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:47
- High ROF Autorifles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 17:39
- High ROF Autorifles - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 10:34
- High ROF Autorifles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 17:39
- High ROF Autorifles -
stabbim,
2015-02-05, 14:33
- High ROF Autorifles - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:44
- Agreed - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 14:53
- I agree with all of this. -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 13:47
- High ROF Autorifles -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 13:47
- High ROF Autorifles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 14:06
- You can't buy a Monte Carlo, Cruel. - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 14:11
- High ROF Autorifles - Pfhor, 2015-02-05, 15:25
- High ROF Autorifles -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 14:06
- High ROF Autorifles -
ChrisTheeCrappy,
2015-02-05, 14:11
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:28
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 22:14
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-02-06, 11:27
- Huh. I think that's...100% on the money. - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 11:29
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 12:23
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-06, 12:05
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:52
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-06, 13:38
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:14
- Specific Numbers -
someotherguy,
2015-02-07, 20:00
- Specific Numbers -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-07, 21:00
- Specific Numbers -
someotherguy,
2015-02-07, 21:07
- Specific Numbers -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 22:34
- Specific Numbers - Lots of Math! -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 23:43
- Specific Numbers - Lots of Math! - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 00:00
- A Wo/Man after my own heart! -
someotherguy,
2015-02-08, 03:03
- I'm a dude. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-08, 08:45
- I don't like to assume, hence the either/or -
someotherguy,
2015-02-09, 09:20
- My profile is gender neutral ;) - Kahzgul, 2015-02-09, 09:26
- I don't like to assume, hence the either/or -
someotherguy,
2015-02-09, 09:20
- I'm a dude. -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-08, 08:45
- Specific Numbers - Lots of Math! -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 23:43
- Specific Numbers -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 22:34
- Specific Numbers -
someotherguy,
2015-02-07, 21:07
- Specific Numbers -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-07, 21:00
- Specific Numbers -
someotherguy,
2015-02-07, 20:00
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 14:14
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-06, 13:38
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 12:52
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-02-06, 11:27
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-06, 11:14
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 22:14
- High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:28
- Necrochasm.. -
Pfhor,
2015-02-05, 15:21
- Necrochasm.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:49
- Necrochasm.. -
Pfhor,
2015-02-05, 16:01
- No Land Beyond and 4th Horseman -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 23:44
- Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 00:09
- I dispute that -
someotherguy,
2015-02-08, 02:48
- I dispute that -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 02:59
- I dispute that - someotherguy, 2015-02-08, 03:06
- I dispute that -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:25
- Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 03:29
- Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:34
- Are you even listening about the face? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 03:39
- Are you even listening about the face? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:41
- Point Taken; Still though, a face - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:49
- Are you even listening about the face? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:41
- Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face - stabbim, 2015-02-08, 11:41
- Are you even listening about the face? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 03:39
- Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:34
- Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 03:29
- Downing Crota? -
dogcow,
2015-02-09, 08:34
- How about Ir Yut? - iconicbanana, 2015-02-09, 08:38
- I dispute that -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 02:59
- Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 03:23
- Does Gjallarhorn have a face? - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:26
- Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath - stabbim, 2015-02-08, 11:39
- But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-08, 08:47
- But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 11:04
- But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP - Kahzgul, 2015-02-09, 09:27
- But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-08, 11:04
- I dispute that -
someotherguy,
2015-02-08, 02:48
- Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-08, 00:09
- No Land Beyond and 4th Horseman -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-07, 23:44
- Necrochasm.. -
Pfhor,
2015-02-05, 16:01
- Necrochasm.. -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:49
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 19:59
- High ROF Autorifles -
someotherguy,
2015-02-05, 20:35
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 20:44
- High ROF Autorifles -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:32
- High ROF Autorifles -
stabbim,
2015-02-05, 21:46
- High ROF Autorifles - iconicbanana, 2015-02-05, 21:53
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 22:07
- High ROF Autorifles -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-02-06, 10:47
- High ROF Autorifles -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 10:51
- High ROF Autorifles - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 11:24
- High ROF Autorifles -
iconicbanana,
2015-02-06, 10:51
- High ROF Autorifles -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-02-06, 10:47
- High ROF Autorifles -
stabbim,
2015-02-05, 21:46
- High ROF Autorifles -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:32
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-05, 20:44
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 14:52
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-06, 16:44
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 17:45
- High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 18:04
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-06, 17:45
- High ROF Autorifles -
RaichuKFM,
2015-02-06, 16:44
- High ROF Autorifles -
someotherguy,
2015-02-05, 20:35
- High ROF Autorifles -
digital_ronin,
2015-02-05, 13:44
- I like these changes! -
slycrel,
2015-02-05, 14:34
- I like these changes! -
Xenos,
2015-02-06, 11:43
- I like these changes! - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 12:14
- I like these changes! -
Xenos,
2015-02-06, 11:43
- High ROF Autorifles -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 13:36
- I was right... -
Korny,
2015-02-05, 14:11
- Am I missing something? -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 14:14
- Am I missing something? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 14:17
- Am I missing something? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:41
- Am I missing something? -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 15:51
- I'll give that a try. Thanks guys! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 17:40
- Am I missing something? -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 15:51
- Am I missing something? -
Cody Miller,
2015-02-05, 15:41
- Range in PvE -
slycrel,
2015-02-05, 14:38
- Range in PvE -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:36
- Range in PvE -
stabbim,
2015-02-05, 21:49
- More confirmation -
Dagoonite,
2015-02-05, 22:30
- ***** -
Penthesilean,
2015-02-06, 09:13
- I had considered nesting them... - Dagoonite, 2015-02-06, 22:03
- ***** -
Penthesilean,
2015-02-06, 09:13
- More confirmation -
Dagoonite,
2015-02-05, 22:30
- Range in PvE -
stabbim,
2015-02-05, 21:49
- Range in PvE -
Kahzgul,
2015-02-05, 21:36
- Am I missing something? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-02-05, 14:17
- Am I missing something? -
CyberKN,
2015-02-05, 14:14
- more shotgun range nerfs -
Spec ops Grunt,
2015-02-05, 12:56