High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea (Destiny)

by RaichuKFM , Northeastern Ohio, Friday, February 06, 2015, 12:05 (3582 days ago) @ Kahzgul

I don't know, man. It sounds to me like you've never used a good autorifle.

These are the facts: The slower RoF autorifles are easier to aim, are effective over longer ranges, have a faster time to kill, and need fewer reloads than their high RoF siblings. There is literally no advantage to the high RoF weapons. They're all downside.

No, seriously, this is getting tiring and repetitive. Can you just not keep all the bullets on the guy you're shooting, or something? I've explained upsides to them earlier. I'm not going to do it again. This is a really, really stupid conversation.

"This gun is statistically better than this gun by these metrics, but its best fitted to a different playstyle than this gun is" is what I'm drawing from what you're saying. I'm not going to pretend Doctor Nope is better than, say, SUROS. I'd still do worse with a SUROS. Therefore, Doctor Nope is, for me, a better gun. And if its the best gun for me and I do well enough, doesn't that mean it's not trash? Doesn't the fact that I do fairly well with it mean it's not trash?

Have I emphasized the importance of playstyle in this enough, yet? Because I'm pretty sure I have. And yet, the point, it's been missed.

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Sandbox Update coming soonish - JDQuackers, 2015-02-05, 12:53
- more shotgun range nerfs - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-02-05, 12:56
  - Agreed. - Revenant1988, 2015-02-05, 13:21
- Stranger's Gun - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-05, 13:00
  - Best gun you'll have for a while @20. - iconicbanana, 2015-02-05, 13:03
    - Best gun you'll have for a while @20. - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:20
      - Best gun you'll have for a while @20. - iconicbanana, 2015-02-05, 13:23
        
        Best gun you'll have for a while @20. - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:25
        
        There's a reason for that... - Korny, 2015-02-06, 02:01
        
        There's a reason for that... - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 10:12
        
        There's a reason for that... - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 12:21
        
        There's a reason for that... - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 13:56
        
        There's a reason for that... - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 22:40
- So is this a Nerf to universal remote? - Spec ops Grunt, 2015-02-05, 13:04
  - So is this a Nerf to universal remote? - digital_ronin, 2015-02-05, 13:32
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 13:09
  - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:15
    - Sandbox Update coming soonish - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 13:30
    - Knowing how these perks go they'll cancel each other out... - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:31
      - They shouldn't - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 18:28
    - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Pfhor, 2015-02-05, 15:16
      - Shotguns need guaranteed stagger in PvE - Kahzgul, 2015-02-05, 21:15
  - PvE Shotguns - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 13:26
    - PvE Shotguns - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:33
      - PvE Shotguns - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 13:57
        
        PvE Shotguns - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:41
        
        PvE Shotguns - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 15:56
        
        PvE Shotguns - Speedracer513, 2015-02-05, 16:30
        
        Same thing happens after the Templar. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 18:11
        
        and after Gatekeepers - Speedracer513, 2015-02-05, 18:30
        
        and after gorgons... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-02-05, 18:53
        
        PvE Shotguns - dogcow, 2015-02-05, 16:05
        
        PvE Shotguns - Speedracer513, 2015-02-05, 16:30
        
        PvE Shotguns - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 19:41
    - PvE Shotguns - SonofMacPhisto, 2015-02-05, 16:16
      - PvE Shotguns - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 10:07
- Please don't nerf my Pocket Infinity! - Blackt1g3r, 2015-02-05, 13:11
- Don't understand - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:19
  - Don't understand - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 13:36
    - Don't understand - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 14:24
  - Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... - slycrel, 2015-02-05, 14:31
    - Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... - iconicbanana, 2015-02-05, 14:34
      - Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:43
        
        Hand cannons eclipsing longer ranged weapons... - DreadPirateWes, 2015-02-05, 18:41
  - Don't understand - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:34
- Sandbox Update coming soonish - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 13:21
  - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:36
    - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:50
      - Sandbox Update coming soonish - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 15:57
      - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 16:03
  - Sandbox Update coming soonish - Xenos, 2015-02-05, 17:10
- I like these changes! - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-02-05, 13:24
  - High ROF Autorifles - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 13:36
    - High ROF Autorifles - digital_ronin, 2015-02-05, 13:44
      - I agree with all of this. - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 13:47
        
        Although, on reflection... - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 14:10
      - High ROF Autorifles - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 14:08
        
        I no rite? - Korny, 2015-02-05, 14:13
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:47
        
        High ROF Autorifles - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 17:39
        
        High ROF Autorifles - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 10:34
      - High ROF Autorifles - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 14:33
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Ragashingo, 2015-02-05, 14:44
      - Agreed - BeardFade, 2015-02-05, 14:53
    - High ROF Autorifles - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 13:47
      - High ROF Autorifles - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 14:06
        
        You can't buy a Monte Carlo, Cruel. - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 14:11
      - High ROF Autorifles - Pfhor, 2015-02-05, 15:25
    - High ROF Autorifles - ChrisTheeCrappy, 2015-02-05, 14:11
      - High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-05, 21:28
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 22:14
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 11:14
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 11:27
        
        Huh. I think that's...100% on the money. - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 11:29
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 12:23
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 12:05
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 12:52
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 13:38
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Blanket Nerfs are a Bad Idea - Kahzgul, 2015-02-06, 14:14
        
        Specific Numbers - someotherguy, 2015-02-07, 20:00
        
        Specific Numbers - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-07, 21:00
        
        Specific Numbers - someotherguy, 2015-02-07, 21:07
        
        Specific Numbers - Kahzgul, 2015-02-07, 22:34
        
        Specific Numbers - Lots of Math! - Kahzgul, 2015-02-07, 23:43
        
        Specific Numbers - Lots of Math! - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 00:00
        
        A Wo/Man after my own heart! - someotherguy, 2015-02-08, 03:03
        
        I'm a dude. - Kahzgul, 2015-02-08, 08:45
        
        I don't like to assume, hence the either/or - someotherguy, 2015-02-09, 09:20
        
        My profile is gender neutral ;) - Kahzgul, 2015-02-09, 09:26
    - Necrochasm.. - Pfhor, 2015-02-05, 15:21
      - Necrochasm.. - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:49
        
        Necrochasm.. - Pfhor, 2015-02-05, 16:01
        
        No Land Beyond and 4th Horseman - Kahzgul, 2015-02-07, 23:44
        
        Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 00:09
        
        I dispute that - someotherguy, 2015-02-08, 02:48
        
        I dispute that - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 02:59
        
        I dispute that - someotherguy, 2015-02-08, 03:06
        
        I dispute that - Cody Miller, 2015-02-08, 03:25
        
        Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:29
        
        Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face - Cody Miller, 2015-02-08, 03:34
        
        Are you even listening about the face? - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:39
        
        Are you even listening about the face? - Cody Miller, 2015-02-08, 03:41
        
        Point Taken; Still though, a face - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:49
        
        Okay, but, it still doesn't have a face - stabbim, 2015-02-08, 11:41
        
        Downing Crota? - dogcow, 2015-02-09, 08:34
        
        How about Ir Yut? - iconicbanana, 2015-02-09, 08:38
        
        Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath - Cody Miller, 2015-02-08, 03:23
        
        Does Gjallarhorn have a face? - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-08, 03:26
        
        Yes, actually, it's called Dragon's Breath - stabbim, 2015-02-08, 11:39
        
        But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP - Kahzgul, 2015-02-08, 08:47
        
        But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP - Cody Miller, 2015-02-08, 11:04
        
        But Dragon's Breath is awful in PvP - Kahzgul, 2015-02-09, 09:27
    - High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 19:59
      - High ROF Autorifles - someotherguy, 2015-02-05, 20:35
        
        High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 20:44
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Kahzgul, 2015-02-05, 21:32
        
        High ROF Autorifles - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 21:46
        
        High ROF Autorifles - iconicbanana, 2015-02-05, 21:53
        
        High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-05, 22:07
        
        High ROF Autorifles - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 10:47
        
        High ROF Autorifles - iconicbanana, 2015-02-06, 10:51
        
        High ROF Autorifles - MacAddictXIV, 2015-02-06, 11:24
      - High ROF Autorifles - Cody Miller, 2015-02-06, 14:52
        
        High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 16:44
        
        High ROF Autorifles - Cody Miller, 2015-02-06, 17:45
        
        High ROF Autorifles - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 18:04
  - I like these changes! - slycrel, 2015-02-05, 14:34
    - I like these changes! - Xenos, 2015-02-06, 11:43
      - I like these changes! - RaichuKFM, 2015-02-06, 12:14
- I was right... - Korny, 2015-02-05, 14:11
  - Am I missing something? - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 14:14
    - Am I missing something? - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 14:17
      - Am I missing something? - Cody Miller, 2015-02-05, 15:41
        
        Am I missing something? - CyberKN, 2015-02-05, 15:51
        
        I'll give that a try. Thanks guys! - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-02-05, 17:40
    - Range in PvE - slycrel, 2015-02-05, 14:38
      - Range in PvE - Kahzgul, 2015-02-05, 21:36
        
        Range in PvE - stabbim, 2015-02-05, 21:49
        
        More confirmation - Dagoonite, 2015-02-05, 22:30
        
        ***** - Penthesilean, 2015-02-06, 09:13
        
        I had considered nesting them... - Dagoonite, 2015-02-06, 22:03

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