
On content and why we're hurting for it. (Destiny)
You want me to throw money on this franchise Bungie? Pull another Forge World reveal on us.
It is 100% the fault of the investment system and how the game was designed around awards.
With Halo, you never burned out, because you only played when you wanted to, for the sake of just playing. In a sense there was nothing to get burned out on; you simply played when you wanted to, and didn't when you didn't.
Destiny is so reward focused, that it essentially mandates certain activities if you want to succeed and get to the parts you do want. So at times you are playing not because you enjoy the experience, but because you need the reward. As you progress more, this happens more. Thus, there is a clash, and you burn out.
It was a colossal misstep, although I warned about it years before Destiny was even announced. The fewer rewards in the game the better. All items and weapons should be able to be acquired in specific ways through specific challenges. Not through bullshit repetitive bounties, but as part of the challenge of the actual game. Think about how you get weapons in games like Deus Ex, Metroid, and Zelda.
In short, put back in all the stuff you described, and get rid of the player investment system entirely. In fact, the term and what it represents should simply be banned from the Bungie offices.
You do not even have to give up things like weapon and player progression, that my critics seem to love so much.
Complete thread:
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-21, 18:37
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Warbow, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- Very good point - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-21, 19:05
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:11
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Kermit, 2015-03-23, 07:26
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-23, 11:54
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Earendil, 2015-03-23, 16:07
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:06
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- Nah. -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 02:18
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Have you seen Edge of Tomorrow? - Korny, 2015-03-23, 05:08
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Nah. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-22, 05:39
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Hey! I Agree!
- INSANEdrive, 2015-03-21, 20:08
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-21, 20:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - stabbim, 2015-03-22, 04:04
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-22, 05:36
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 14:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-25, 15:11
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-22, 23:33
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe - marmot 1333, 2015-03-24, 13:16
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 13:19
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe - Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 14:21
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:22
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- Just a caveat - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:32
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:34
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- I've got gloves and mitts if anyone needs a workout. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 02:04
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- What I observe - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 16:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:05
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- ZackDark, 2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- That would be helpful.
- iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:45
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 14:55
- For real, right? -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:56
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- For real, right? * - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:05
- For real, right? -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:19
- For real, right? - General Vagueness, 2015-03-25, 00:33
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:53
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:26
- Elaboration: the other 3 main DLCs are shit, IMHO - ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:31
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- That would be helpful.
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Correct.
- Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:26
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:34
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- The guy above this (^) guy knows what's up. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 04:40
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 02:55
- It's just the kind of guy I am. - Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
uberfoop,
2015-03-23, 20:59
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - narcogen, 2015-03-24, 03:34
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 03:58
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 22:32
- Details about those raid videos. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-24, 14:01
- Details about those raid videos. - Kermit, 2015-03-24, 15:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 15:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 23:36
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 15:42
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - uberfoop, 2015-03-24, 04:43
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- I agree and disagree. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-21, 21:26
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- Now YOU made ME think of it. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-23, 21:29
- I play by original rules. - Dagoonite, 2015-03-23, 21:56
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - musicalwahine808, 2015-03-21, 22:56
- We're clearly in a time vortex. Destiny is a Halo Prototype
- Kahzgul, 2015-03-23, 06:54