
On content and why we're drowning in it. (Destiny)
Because it's the player's job to decide when to stop. I'd say it's the developers job to always offer some reason to keep going. If the offer isn't enticing enough, you stop, but I don't think there's much value in a "game over" screen that's not a failure state.
Imagine you are me on September 9th. 6am, having finished the main Destiny story.
The raid sounds like it will be awesome, but it starts at level 26. I am 20. Going from 20 to 26 requires the worst type of grinding. I want to play the raid. What am I supposed to do?
Well, I could do what you did and wait, but if I did I know I would not have gotten the experience I did by doing it second 1. I saw your videos. You had funkmon tell you how the mechanics worked. The BEST part of the raid - uncovering and figuring out this weird new set of items and bosses and abilities, was totally lost on you.
I had SO MUCH FUN being baffled as to how to kill the Templar, and figuring it out with my group. The gorgons, and finding the chests. Wondering what secrets there were. I still don't know how we figured out the gatekeeper section but we did! It took us 10 or so hours to completely do it. You just waltzed through it.
Because of the internet, if you don't do it as soon as possible, either you get spoiled, or the people you want to play with get spoiled.
So, the raid the second it opened up with no clue and blue weapons was one of the best times I've ever had playing a bungie game. That is very valuable. That would compel me to play. So why the shit did I have to grind to get there and experience this wonderful thing?
I had reason to keep going, but the journey to get there was miserable. I almost gave up. The journey should be fun as well, and with investment systems, the journey is required to suck.
but I don't think there's much value in a "game over" screen that's not a failure state.
No. This is REQUIRED for a good game! It's called an ending, and it means that you have finally mastered the game.
Complete thread:
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-21, 18:37
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Warbow, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- Very good point - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-21, 19:05
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:11
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Kermit, 2015-03-23, 07:26
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-23, 11:54
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Earendil, 2015-03-23, 16:07
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:06
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- Nah. -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 02:18
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Have you seen Edge of Tomorrow? - Korny, 2015-03-23, 05:08
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Nah. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-22, 05:39
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Hey! I Agree!
- INSANEdrive, 2015-03-21, 20:08
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-21, 20:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - stabbim, 2015-03-22, 04:04
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-22, 05:36
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 14:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-25, 15:11
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-22, 23:33
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe - marmot 1333, 2015-03-24, 13:16
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 13:19
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe - Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 14:21
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:22
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- Just a caveat - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:32
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:34
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- I've got gloves and mitts if anyone needs a workout. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 02:04
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- What I observe - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 16:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:05
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- ZackDark, 2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- That would be helpful.
- iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:45
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 14:55
- For real, right? -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:56
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- For real, right? * - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:05
- For real, right? -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:19
- For real, right? - General Vagueness, 2015-03-25, 00:33
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:53
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:26
- Elaboration: the other 3 main DLCs are shit, IMHO - ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:31
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- That would be helpful.
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Correct.
- Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:26
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:34
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- The guy above this (^) guy knows what's up. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 04:40
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 02:55
- It's just the kind of guy I am. - Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
uberfoop,
2015-03-23, 20:59
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - narcogen, 2015-03-24, 03:34
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 03:58
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 22:32
- Details about those raid videos. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-24, 14:01
- Details about those raid videos. - Kermit, 2015-03-24, 15:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 15:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 23:36
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 15:42
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - uberfoop, 2015-03-24, 04:43
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- I agree and disagree. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-21, 21:26
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- Now YOU made ME think of it. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-23, 21:29
- I play by original rules. - Dagoonite, 2015-03-23, 21:56
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - musicalwahine808, 2015-03-21, 22:56
- We're clearly in a time vortex. Destiny is a Halo Prototype
- Kahzgul, 2015-03-23, 06:54