
I'll give this a shot. (Destiny)
You need to think at a high, holistic approach to the design. You can't make DLC units for chess, since the entire game is built around everybody having, and the designers knowing everybody has, certain pieces that do certain things. The entire game centers around that and their interactions. You can't just add pieces willy nilly without upsetting that finely tuned machine.
Don't take my word for it: history has proved my point. No DLC in the history of the medium stands up to the best of what non dlc has to offer. None. Not a single example.
So as I understand it, your argument is: nobody's made a DLC as good as the best games ever made, and I can't provide an example of a DLC better than the best games ever made; and that is because the best games ever made are narrative works of art that DLC's are simply a derivative of, like fan-fiction. So stuff like Fallout: New Vegas, or the Expansions to Diablo/Starcraft, etc., probably aren't what you would include as DLC (they're inconvenient for your argument, I would imagine, and you'd probably consider them core components of the planned narrative to the core game, so whatever, fine, we'll toss them). Sequels are also out, but they aren't really DLC.
(The definition for DLC is understood to be content that builds on to the original core of the game; that this content is superfluous to the enjoyment of said core content, and largely unnecessary to the enjoyment of the core narrative; but that it still is canonical, and upsets the apple-cart of the primary narrative a little. Like an epilogue of sorts, or a prologue, which is frequently what DLC does. It could also be a "Season 2" sort of thing that offers new gameplay mechanics.)
Along with the definitions listed above and the outline of your argument, you also presuppose that I:
1. Enjoy the exact things you enjoy
2. What you enjoy is the (objectively) best thing to enjoy
So, caveat's out of the way.
Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon is a DLC.
I've never enjoyed a one-off, 4-5 hour campaign more in my life.
It delivered. I've enjoyed few games as much as I enjoyed it. If your cold heart couldn't enjoy that throwback, I feel sorry for you.
Complete thread:
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-21, 18:37
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Warbow, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- Very good point - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-21, 19:05
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:11
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Kermit, 2015-03-23, 07:26
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-23, 11:54
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Earendil, 2015-03-23, 16:07
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:06
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- Nah. -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 02:18
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Have you seen Edge of Tomorrow? - Korny, 2015-03-23, 05:08
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Nah. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-22, 05:39
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Hey! I Agree!
- INSANEdrive, 2015-03-21, 20:08
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-21, 20:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - stabbim, 2015-03-22, 04:04
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-22, 05:36
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 14:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-25, 15:11
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-22, 23:33
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe - marmot 1333, 2015-03-24, 13:16
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 13:19
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe - Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 14:21
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:22
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- Just a caveat - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:32
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:34
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- I've got gloves and mitts if anyone needs a workout. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 02:04
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- What I observe - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 16:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:05
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- ZackDark, 2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- That would be helpful.
- iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:45
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 14:55
- For real, right? -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:56
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- For real, right? * - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:05
- For real, right? -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:19
- For real, right? - General Vagueness, 2015-03-25, 00:33
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:53
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:26
- Elaboration: the other 3 main DLCs are shit, IMHO - ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:31
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- That would be helpful.
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Correct.
- Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:26
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:34
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- The guy above this (^) guy knows what's up. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 04:40
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 02:55
- It's just the kind of guy I am. - Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
uberfoop,
2015-03-23, 20:59
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - narcogen, 2015-03-24, 03:34
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 03:58
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 22:32
- Details about those raid videos. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-24, 14:01
- Details about those raid videos. - Kermit, 2015-03-24, 15:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 15:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 23:36
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 15:42
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - uberfoop, 2015-03-24, 04:43
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- I agree and disagree. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-21, 21:26
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- Now YOU made ME think of it. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-23, 21:29
- I play by original rules. - Dagoonite, 2015-03-23, 21:56
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - musicalwahine808, 2015-03-21, 22:56
- We're clearly in a time vortex. Destiny is a Halo Prototype
- Kahzgul, 2015-03-23, 06:54