
On content and why we're drowning in it. (Destiny)
That is not a criticism. That is the ultimate confirmation that Bungie has made the right decisions, not the wrong ones, and that the investment hooks work so well that people keep playing beyond the point where they should but are unable or unwilling to stop.
You act as though putting a game down and finishing it is somehow bad, and that the more you play the better the game. I thought you were smart man.
I cannot believe you just said that. I really can't. Do you have any idea of QUALITY vs QUANTITY?
I cannot stand anything but PvP and occasional raids and nightfalls anymore. That time you say people are spending the game beyond when they should stop is time where they are doing repetitive, boring ass shit. I get that you play at a more leisurely pace than some of us. I get why you might not see it yet.
Day 1 I complained the endgame was shit aside from the raids. And I can only run them so many times before I want something new. I have guns I'd love to try but can't because I'd have to spend upwards of 6 hours over 3 days leveling them up to get the perks that make them worthwhile. It's not worth my time, but plenty of people would do it even though leveling guns is fucking boring.
if you ever say "the investment hooks work so well that people keep playing beyond the point where they should but are unable or unwilling to stop." then your investment hooks are complete and utter shit.
It's really simple. Ask yourself: would I do this if I got no reward? If the answer is no, then you don't really want to be doing it, and when players do it because the system forces or manipulates them to, Bungie is wasting their time when they could be doing something they'd actually enjoy.
It is the harshest criticism one can give to a game actually, since these elements are not accidentally bad, but bad on purpose and meant to exploit you.
Your criticism of the Halo games is also off base, since while you have to wait three years for more content, that content will be of better quality because it is not DLC, than if the equivalent amount of content were released as DLC in chunks over the period of three years. It's not like Bungie is the only company making video games. Play something else while you wait.
Complete thread:
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-21, 18:37
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Warbow, 2015-03-21, 18:58
- Very good point - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-03-21, 19:05
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:11
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Kermit, 2015-03-23, 07:26
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-23, 11:54
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:00
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - Earendil, 2015-03-23, 16:07
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? - uberfoop, 2015-03-23, 21:06
- 30 seconds of fun = core game? -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 05:00
- Nah. -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 02:18
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Have you seen Edge of Tomorrow? - Korny, 2015-03-23, 05:08
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
General Battuta,
2015-03-22, 14:18
- Nah. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-22, 05:39
- Multiplayer Music always got you pumped... -
Korny,
2015-03-22, 03:11
- Also -
Earendil,
2015-03-22, 02:09
- Nah. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-21, 19:42
- Nah. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2015-03-21, 19:22
- Hey! I Agree!
- INSANEdrive, 2015-03-21, 20:08
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-21, 20:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - stabbim, 2015-03-22, 04:04
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-22, 05:36
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 14:33
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-25, 15:11
- inb4 Deus Ex ;p
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-25, 10:05
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-22, 23:33
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe - marmot 1333, 2015-03-24, 13:16
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 13:19
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe - Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 14:21
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:10
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:22
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- Just a caveat - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:32
- Just a caveat -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 15:29
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:34
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- I've got gloves and mitts if anyone needs a workout. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-25, 02:04
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 01:51
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-25, 01:41
- What I observe -
General Vagueness,
2015-03-25, 00:38
- Just a caveat -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 15:24
- What I observe - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 16:00
- What I observe -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 12:44
- What I observe -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 12:29
- What I observe -
Kermit,
2015-03-24, 11:50
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 07:15
- :( -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:15
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:05
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- ZackDark, 2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:41
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- That would be helpful.
- iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:45
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 14:55
- For real, right? -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:56
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- For real, right? * - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 15:05
- For real, right? -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 15:19
- For real, right? - General Vagueness, 2015-03-25, 00:33
- For real, right? -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 15:01
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 14:53
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:26
- Elaboration: the other 3 main DLCs are shit, IMHO - ZackDark, 2015-03-25, 00:31
- Forget the rest, get Tiny Tina's. Dead serious.
- I really should have given B2's DLC more of a chance. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:25
- I can't "Yes" this enough -
ZackDark,
2015-03-25, 00:23
- I'm glad you brought this back up, for other reasons. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-25, 00:04
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
RC,
2015-03-24, 23:46
- By that definition, any game on the Xbox store is DLC. -
CyberKN,
2015-03-24, 14:49
- HA! Here you go Cody! I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS EXISTS! -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 14:27
- That would be helpful.
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:44
- I'm pretty sure those maps were downloadable...
- Heh -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:39
- Heh -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:37
- Heh -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:36
- Correct.
- Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Yeah, maybe. I think it should be though. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:27
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:26
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-24, 13:34
- I'll give this a shot. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 13:32
- I'll give this a shot. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-24, 13:29
- If ODST isn't a DLC for him, this isn't as well -
ZackDark,
2015-03-24, 13:22
- :( -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 02:51
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:29
- The guy above this (^) guy knows what's up. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-23, 04:40
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- Ragashingo, 2015-03-24, 02:55
- It's just the kind of guy I am. - Funkmon, 2015-03-24, 13:30
- Heh. Pretty risky title you got there. :p
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
uberfoop,
2015-03-23, 20:59
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - narcogen, 2015-03-24, 03:34
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 03:58
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 22:32
- Details about those raid videos. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-24, 14:01
- Details about those raid videos. - Kermit, 2015-03-24, 15:14
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 15:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - General Vagueness, 2015-03-24, 23:36
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 06:13
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Ragashingo,
2015-03-24, 14:11
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - Cody Miller, 2015-03-24, 15:42
- On content and why we're drowning in it. - uberfoop, 2015-03-24, 04:43
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-24, 02:21
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
narcogen,
2015-03-24, 01:32
- On content and why we're drowning in it. -
Cody Miller,
2015-03-23, 00:18
- On content and why we're hurting for it. -
Hoovaloov,
2015-03-22, 02:46
- I agree and disagree. -
Funkmon,
2015-03-21, 21:26
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- Now YOU made ME think of it. - iconicbanana, 2015-03-23, 21:29
- I play by original rules. - Dagoonite, 2015-03-23, 21:56
- @#$%! Thanks a LOT! -
Earendil,
2015-03-23, 21:21
- This is depressingly true. -
iconicbanana,
2015-03-23, 00:15
- On content and why we're hurting for it. - musicalwahine808, 2015-03-21, 22:56
- We're clearly in a time vortex. Destiny is a Halo Prototype
- Kahzgul, 2015-03-23, 06:54