
+1, and then some. (Destiny)
Look at the Strike Primaries: they are meant to basically be the old raid weapons. Treads Upon Stars is straight up a Vision of Confluence without solar. But does it dominate the scout rifle metagame like VoC did? No… Imago loop is fatebringer, and even with the same perks it doesn't; dominate. These weapons still have much the same stats, yet aren't overpowered at all. That might have a little to do with the perks being nerfed (field scout), but I think lack of elemental damage has a lot to do with it.
Vision was great because of the Full Auto, Field Scout & Zen Moment. Elemental damage was just a plus. Tread upon stars can be great with the right perks. But the fact that we have to grind and grind and grind in order to get those perks. It's not worth just not worth the grind typically.Same situation with Fatebringer. The combination of set perks is just impossible to beat. RNG ruins the fun of trying to get that same weapon now.
Those primaries were just extremely solid rolls that were fairly easy to get. It was one layer of RNG compared to the two layers of RNG with the current strike specific versions. First is to get a drop, second is to get the right perks. The year one versions had an extremely high chance of dropping compared to the year two double rng versions.
I'd add that year 2 brought in a triple-layer of RNG: will you get the gun you want (or any gun at all?), will it have the perks you want, and will it drop at a decent Light Level?
Complete thread:
- It's NOT Over -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 00:04
- It's NOT Over - Xenos, 2016-06-20, 02:08
- Lol at 4 and 5.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 02:17
- Why lol? It's true. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 17:23
- Yup +1 - Raflection, 2016-06-20, 17:26
- Not the reason I laughed. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-20, 17:43
- Not the reason I laughed. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 17:55
- Not the reason I laughed. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 06:06
- Why lol? It's true. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 17:23
- Year One. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-20, 02:17
- +1 - someotherguy, 2016-06-20, 07:27
- Absolutely!
- BlackstarBSP, 2016-06-20, 12:07
- +1
- narcogen, 2016-06-20, 12:28
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 13:37
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 13:49
- +1, and then some. -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-20, 14:06
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 17:00
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 17:27
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 17:41
- Yep. - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 17:45
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 17:48
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:06
- +1, and then some. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 18:15
- +1, and then some. - slycrel, 2016-06-20, 18:21
- Completely agree - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 18:21
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:24
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:20
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:26
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 18:35
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:05
- +1, and then some. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-20, 19:55
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 20:06
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 20:18
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 20:06
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:45
- I hate how much I agree with this.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 18:57
- It's bound to happen unfortunately.
- unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:58
- It's bound to happen unfortunately.
- I hate how much I agree with this.
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 18:35
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:26
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 18:32
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:23
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:33
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 20:09
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:40
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 20:20
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 21:11
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 20:20
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:33
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:23
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:39
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 19:45
- I had a different KF Primary experience. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:47
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 20:57
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 21:24
- I had a different KF Primary experience. - Harmanimus, 2016-06-20, 22:00
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 21:24
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 19:45
- I love my full-auto Doom of Chelchis - Kermit, 2016-06-21, 12:28
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:39
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 18:15
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:06
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 17:41
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:11
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 14:28
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 14:45
- +1, and then some. -
slycrel,
2016-06-20, 16:28
- Also, sorry I missed you last night. =)
- slycrel, 2016-06-20, 16:28
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 17:26
- Also, sorry I missed you last night. =)
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 14:28
- +1, and then some. -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-20, 14:06
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 13:49
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-20, 14:03
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:14
- Fire Sword is undoubtedly the most fun I've had this year.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 15:59
- Fire Sword is undoubtedly the most fun I've had this year.
- Sword Quest, ugh. - marmot 1333, 2016-06-20, 14:42
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:14
- Which step is 'bargaining' again?
- narcogen, 2016-06-20, 12:28
- lol
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 13:48
- lol
- Can Saharas get Third Eye again yet? - RaichuKFM, 2016-06-20, 13:54
- Year 2 has really done it for me - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-06-21, 10:07