
+1, and then some. (Destiny)
When you have 20 choices as you say, another similar one isn't going to make much difference, which is why nothing you get excited you. It's entirely possible that moving forward Destiny just needs fewer guns which are more dissimilar to each other is style.
Completely agree with that.
So the question becomes: How do you make it exciting for people to get stuff?Getting a weapon that is way better than the one you have is exciting. Getting one a little better is not exciting. But if a gun is way better than anything else, that creates a problem where it's just too good. If you only get guns a little better than what you have, you don't feel good about using it.
The solution I think is to make guns that are locally overpowered, yet globally weak if that makes sense. Then, design situations where the overpowered element can be exploited, but make that a relatively narrow area, with large weaknesses. If the overall situations are such that you need to balance a lot of elements to succeed, then the gun is never going to totally dominate, yet still feel powerful. Add in some all round weapons that don't have weaknesses but also aren't quite as powerful, and you're good to go.
The more overpowered the gun is, the thinner the razor's edge of using it should be.
What you're describing is almost exactly what I've been saying is so great about elemental primaries. Atheon's Epilogue was NOT an overpowered weapon... but there were times when it was the absolute best thing to use. Same goes for many of the year 1 elemental primaries. Fatebringer and possible Vision of Confluence really were the only "overpowered" elementals. All the rest were totally average outside of select scenarios.
Complete thread:
- It's NOT Over -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 00:04
- It's NOT Over - Xenos, 2016-06-20, 02:08
- Lol at 4 and 5.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 02:17
- Why lol? It's true. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 17:23
- Yup +1 - Raflection, 2016-06-20, 17:26
- Not the reason I laughed. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-20, 17:43
- Not the reason I laughed. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 17:55
- Not the reason I laughed. - Kahzgul, 2016-06-21, 06:06
- Why lol? It's true. -
Kahzgul,
2016-06-20, 17:23
- Year One. -
cheapLEY,
2016-06-20, 02:17
- +1 - someotherguy, 2016-06-20, 07:27
- Absolutely!
- BlackstarBSP, 2016-06-20, 12:07
- +1
- narcogen, 2016-06-20, 12:28
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 13:37
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 13:49
- +1, and then some. -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-20, 14:06
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 17:00
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 17:27
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 17:41
- Yep. - ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 17:45
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 17:48
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:06
- +1, and then some. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 18:15
- +1, and then some. - slycrel, 2016-06-20, 18:21
- Completely agree - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 18:21
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:24
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:20
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:26
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 18:35
- +1, and then some. - unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:05
- +1, and then some. -
Claude Errera,
2016-06-20, 19:55
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 20:06
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 20:18
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 20:06
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:45
- I hate how much I agree with this.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 18:57
- It's bound to happen unfortunately.
- unoudid, 2016-06-20, 18:58
- It's bound to happen unfortunately.
- I hate how much I agree with this.
- +1, and then some. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 18:35
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:26
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 18:32
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:23
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:33
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 20:09
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:40
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 20:20
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 21:11
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 20:20
- +1, and then some. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:33
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:23
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:39
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 19:45
- I had a different KF Primary experience. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 19:47
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
Harmanimus,
2016-06-20, 20:57
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 21:24
- I had a different KF Primary experience. - Harmanimus, 2016-06-20, 22:00
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 21:24
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CyberKN,
2016-06-20, 19:45
- I love my full-auto Doom of Chelchis - Kermit, 2016-06-21, 12:28
- I had a different KF Primary experience. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 19:39
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 19:12
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 18:52
- +1, and then some. -
dogcow,
2016-06-20, 18:15
- +1, and then some. -
unoudid,
2016-06-20, 18:06
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 17:41
- +1, and then some. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:11
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 14:28
- +1, and then some. - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 14:45
- +1, and then some. -
slycrel,
2016-06-20, 16:28
- Also, sorry I missed you last night. =)
- slycrel, 2016-06-20, 16:28
- +1, and then some. - Cody Miller, 2016-06-20, 17:26
- Also, sorry I missed you last night. =)
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 14:28
- +1, and then some. -
RaichuKFM,
2016-06-20, 14:06
- +1, and then some. -
Cody Miller,
2016-06-20, 13:49
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-06-20, 14:03
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:14
- Fire Sword is undoubtedly the most fun I've had this year.
- ProbablyLast, 2016-06-20, 15:59
- Fire Sword is undoubtedly the most fun I've had this year.
- Sword Quest, ugh. - marmot 1333, 2016-06-20, 14:42
- Yep. It really isn't even close. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-06-20, 14:14
- Which step is 'bargaining' again?
- narcogen, 2016-06-20, 12:28
- lol
- CruelLEGACEY, 2016-06-20, 13:48
- lol
- Can Saharas get Third Eye again yet? - RaichuKFM, 2016-06-20, 13:54
- Year 2 has really done it for me - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-06-21, 10:07