I think it's a good idea (Destiny)

by General Vagueness , The Vault of Sass, Thursday, September 07, 2017, 15:23 (2717 days ago) @ electricpirate

Seems far more likely the rationale is less "artistic integrity" (because if so, why allow shaders at all) and more "let's try and goose our micro transaction revenue."

I know this is the prevailing narrative, but I don't think it's accurate. Eververse has a limited set of shaders and it's pretty random. If you want specific shaders its seems to better to go where you know the drop (faction packages, chests) to get the colors you like. If they wanted to really use this to juice micro transactions they would have made bright engrams the key source of them instead of giving you more control by getting them in the world.

the design to me suggests they wanted to give something else to chase, but obviously this struck a nerve with a lot of people.

I think the best way to show good faith here is to remove shaders from bright engrams until they have a solution that doesn't piss everyone off.

I mean, it will drive people to buy them somewhat, but what it'll do more is lengthen play time, and they have a vested interest in doing that by whatever means will work.
Personally I always kept the same shader on 90% of the time, but I'd also change it for things like Iron Banner or redoing old content or just when I got something new from a significant piece of content, and this will put a big big damper on that. I don't like a game making me afraid to mess up-- I mean in terms of challenge, sure, but cosmetics?

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Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Schedonnardus, 2017-09-06, 09:05
- Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - EffortlessFury, 2017-09-06, 09:41
  - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 08:29
    - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-07, 08:37
      - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - bluerunner, 2017-09-07, 08:43
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-07, 08:45
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - bluerunner, 2017-09-07, 10:12
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 06:49
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Harmanimus, 2017-09-07, 09:27
      - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 17:02
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - cheapLEY, 2017-09-07, 18:58
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Harmanimus, 2017-09-08, 01:08
- Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - electricpirate, 2017-09-06, 11:41
  - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 08:32
    - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Harmanimus, 2017-09-07, 09:28
      - Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 17:04
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Harmanimus, 2017-09-08, 01:10
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - Kahzgul, 2017-09-08, 09:11
        
        Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - cheapLEY, 2017-09-08, 10:22
    - My 25 chatterwhites would disagree. - ProbablyLast, 2017-09-07, 09:41
      - My 25 chatterwhites would disagree. - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 17:05
        
        My 25 chatterwhites would disagree. - General Vagueness, 2017-09-07, 18:04
        
        That's fair. Plus, it was a top 1 shader so nbd - ProbablyLast, 2017-09-08, 08:39
        
        Top 1 shader == absence of color - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 08:46
- lame - Old Fire Thief, 2017-09-06, 11:59
- I think it's a good idea - Revenant1988, 2017-09-06, 12:10
  - I think it's a good idea - davidfuchs, 2017-09-07, 06:43
    - I think it's a good idea - electricpirate, 2017-09-07, 07:08
      - I think it's a good idea - davidfuchs, 2017-09-07, 10:15
        
        I think it's a good idea - electricpirate, 2017-09-07, 13:36
      - I think it's a good idea - General Vagueness, 2017-09-07, 15:23
  - I think it's a good idea - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 08:34
    - I think it's a good idea - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-07, 08:38
      - I think it's a good idea - Harmanimus, 2017-09-07, 09:30
        
        +1 - Korny, 2017-09-07, 10:42
        
        +1 - Harmanimus, 2017-09-07, 11:01
        
        I also got Suros shaders. - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 06:41
        
        I also got Suros shaders. - Korny, 2017-09-08, 08:22
- Shaders are 1-time use? (consumable) - ManKitten, 2017-09-06, 12:18
- Wow. - INSANEdrive, 2017-09-06, 22:05
- Not excited about this change. - slycrel, 2017-09-07, 08:22
  - Same. - Funkmon, 2017-09-08, 04:11
- I'm annoyed because I like to swap shaders - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 08:36
  - Agreed - Robot Chickens, 2017-09-07, 08:40
  - I'm annoyed because I like to swap shaders - DiscipleN2k, 2017-09-07, 08:57
- Luke justifies it on twitter - electricpirate, 2017-09-07, 12:52
  - 2¢ - INSANEdrive, 2017-09-07, 13:49
  - Luke justifies it on twitter - General Vagueness, 2017-09-07, 15:28
    - Luke justifies it on twitter - Kahzgul, 2017-09-07, 17:09
      - +1 - RaichuKFM, 2017-09-07, 17:19
      - Luke justifies it on twitter - General Vagueness, 2017-09-07, 18:07
      - Luke justifies it on twitter - INSANEdrive, 2017-09-07, 18:26
  - NO! - ManKitten, 2017-09-08, 06:32
    - NO! - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 07:16
      - NO! - ManKitten, 2017-09-08, 07:38
        
        NO! - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 07:41
      - Sunsetting was in The Dark Below, though???? - Harmanimus, 2017-09-08, 14:35
- bummer - Kermit, 2017-09-08, 08:00
  - For what it's worth... - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-09-08, 09:35
    - This is the key right here. - DEEP_NNN, 2017-09-08, 10:08
      - This is the key right here. - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 10:36
        
        This is the key right here. - CruelLEGACEY, 2017-09-08, 10:41
        
        This is the key right here. - MacAddictXIV, 2017-09-08, 10:45
    - For what it's worth... - Korny, 2017-09-08, 10:11
    - For what it's worth... - Kermit, 2017-09-08, 11:07
      - Okay, so... - Claude Errera, 2017-09-10, 00:05

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