Romanticization of the Artist (Gaming)
I don't think I have the time or patience to walk through this argument. Suffice to say, this is a pretty big false equivalence in terms of scope, project participants and size of various staging etc.
So then why do we fetishize the suffering of the artist but not of the people solving humanity's toughest challenges?! Or even as Vortech pointed out, the lawyer down the street? Because that person is suffering for sure. Working a long ass time to pay back a big ass loan.
What about the plumber or the electrician, while we're at it? Suffering is the freaking default, dude. One of the most important functions of art is that it helps us better understand our experience or at least helps us assign it meaning. I think we think about artist's suffering because we think about the origins of art, and part of an artist's job is to transfigure suffering. And to create art that does this for humans across time and space is a damn difficult challenge and pretty damn important, too. Your comparisons of these challenges with practical problem-solving involve conflating different kinds of knowledge and making value comparisons between them. That's a little ignorant.
Complete thread:
- Quantic Dream - Dust has Settled -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-24, 11:02
- Crunch -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-24, 14:09
- For the record -
MartyTheElder,
2020-05-24, 16:04
- For the record - Cody Miller, 2020-05-24, 16:30
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-24, 18:26
- For the record -
cheapLEY,
2020-05-24, 18:55
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-24, 22:21
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 00:19
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 09:11
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 10:24
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 10:50
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 11:18
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 13:29
- For the record - Cody Miller, 2020-05-25, 16:18
- For the record - MacAddictXIV, 2020-05-26, 08:24
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 13:29
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 11:18
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 10:50
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 10:24
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 09:11
- For the record -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 00:19
- For the record -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-24, 22:21
- For the record - Cody Miller, 2020-05-24, 20:28
- The vilest bullshit -
General Battuta,
2020-05-25, 20:41
- The vilest bullshit -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 21:31
- The vilest bullshit -
General Battuta,
2020-05-25, 21:37
- The vilest bullshit -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 22:54
- The vilest bullshit - General Battuta, 2020-05-26, 08:04
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché -
INSANEdrive,
2020-05-26, 10:20
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché - Cody Miller, 2020-05-26, 11:22
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-26, 12:38
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 13:11
- +1 - MacAddictXIV, 2020-05-26, 13:41
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-26, 14:07
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 15:51
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 16:43
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 17:20
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 18:07
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 23:55
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Kermit,
2020-05-27, 10:17
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 10:20
- Romanticization of the Artist -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-27, 10:49
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 11:03
- You are insufferable -
Pyromancy,
2020-05-27, 11:26
- You are insufferable -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 12:00
- You are insufferable *IMG* - Pyromancy, 2020-05-28, 14:15
- You are insufferable -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 12:00
- Romanticization of the Artist -
breitzen,
2020-05-27, 17:13
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 18:20
- On the Value of Art -
breitzen,
2020-05-28, 08:07
- On the Value of Art -
cheapLEY,
2020-05-28, 08:34
- On the Value of Art -
breitzen,
2020-05-28, 09:17
- On the Value of Art - cheapLEY, 2020-05-28, 09:26
- On the Value of Art -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 09:36
- On the Value of Art - cheapLEY, 2020-05-28, 10:00
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Kermit,
2020-05-28, 13:35
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 13:45
- O_O... >_>... ._. - INSANEdrive, 2020-05-28, 14:28
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-28, 17:16
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) - Robot Chickens, 2020-05-28, 17:37
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
cheapLEY,
2020-05-28, 17:19
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 18:06
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-28, 18:31
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 18:42
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-29, 11:35
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) - cheapLEY, 2020-05-29, 12:25
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-29, 11:35
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 18:42
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-28, 18:31
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 18:06
- I can't believe you didn't mention Journey. ;-) -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-28, 13:45
- On the Value of Art -
breitzen,
2020-05-28, 09:17
- On the Value of Art -
cheapLEY,
2020-05-28, 08:34
- On the Value of Art -
breitzen,
2020-05-28, 08:07
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 18:20
- You are insufferable -
Pyromancy,
2020-05-27, 11:26
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 11:03
- Romanticization of the Artist -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-27, 10:49
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-27, 10:20
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Kermit,
2020-05-27, 10:17
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 23:55
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 18:07
- Romanticization of the Artist (this got long) -
Vortech,
2020-05-26, 18:07
- *Slow clap* - MacAddictXIV, 2020-05-27, 08:06
- +1 - marmot 1333, 2020-05-27, 10:43
- A+ - kidtsunami, 2020-05-27, 11:11
- That last paragraph may be a thread killer. I like it. - INSANEdrive, 2020-05-27, 11:54
- Nice. - Kermit, 2020-05-27, 15:35
- I think we finally did it -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-27, 18:23
- We're Doing Guys?? 0.o -
Morpheus,
2020-05-27, 21:09
- We're Doing Guys?? 0.o - Robot Chickens, 2020-05-27, 21:22
- We're Doing Guys?? 0.o -
Morpheus,
2020-05-27, 21:09
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 17:20
- Romanticization of the Artist - bluerunner, 2020-05-26, 16:45
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 16:43
- Romanticization of the Artist -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 15:51
- "The Suffering Artist" Cliché -
Robot Chickens,
2020-05-26, 13:11
- The vilest bullshit -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 22:54
- The vilest bullshit -
General Battuta,
2020-05-25, 21:37
- The vilest bullshit - Kermit, 2020-05-25, 21:35
- The vilest bullshit -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 21:31
- For the record -
cheapLEY,
2020-05-24, 18:55
- For Future Reference -
INSANEdrive,
2020-05-29, 11:25
- Insane might be a spam account -
unoudid,
2020-05-29, 18:48
- O_o ... Wat? - INSANEdrive, 2020-05-29, 19:16
- Insane might be a spam account -
unoudid,
2020-05-29, 18:48
- Crunch -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-24, 16:17
- Crunch - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-05-24, 17:42
- Minor Qubbles -
INSANEdrive,
2020-05-24, 16:59
- +1 - someotherguy, 2020-05-25, 08:37
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-25, 20:37
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 21:55
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 22:01
- Reading comprehension, Cody :) - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-05-25, 22:56
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-25, 22:03
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 23:20
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-26, 06:28
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
squidnh3,
2020-05-26, 07:22
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-26, 07:22
- You don't understand anything about crunch. - Cody Miller, 2020-05-26, 07:38
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
unoudid,
2020-05-26, 07:38
- You don't understand anything about crunch. - General Battuta, 2020-05-26, 08:06
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 08:38
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
unoudid,
2020-05-26, 09:17
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-26, 12:07
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 12:18
- You don't understand anything about crunch. - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-05-26, 12:43
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 12:18
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-26, 12:07
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
unoudid,
2020-05-26, 09:17
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-26, 07:22
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
squidnh3,
2020-05-26, 07:22
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
General Battuta,
2020-05-26, 06:28
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 23:20
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-25, 22:01
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
Claude Errera,
2020-05-26, 10:41
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-26, 10:52
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-05-26, 10:57
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-26, 12:30
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... - EffortlessFury, 2020-05-26, 16:38
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-26, 12:30
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
EffortlessFury,
2020-05-26, 10:57
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... - cheapLEY, 2020-05-26, 11:01
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... - Kermit, 2020-05-27, 15:10
- Probably a bad idea to jump in now... -
MacAddictXIV,
2020-05-26, 10:52
- You don't understand anything about crunch. -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-25, 21:55
- For the record -
MartyTheElder,
2020-05-24, 16:04
- Crunch is inherently toxic -
someotherguy,
2020-05-25, 08:15
- Crunch is inherently toxic - CruelLEGACEY, 2020-05-25, 10:24
- Crunch is inherently toxic - Cody Miller, 2020-05-25, 10:38
- The Survey -
Cody Miller,
2020-05-26, 16:17
- Heh, cool -
ZackDark,
2020-05-26, 16:51
- All You need to know about this game - Cody Miller, 2020-05-27, 00:06
- Heh, cool -
ZackDark,
2020-05-26, 16:51
- The Game - Cody Miller, 2020-05-27, 12:37
- Crunch -
CruelLEGACEY,
2020-05-24, 14:09