
No I'm not. (Destiny)
I completely stand by my interpretation of your statements:
I don't think you are getting what I am saying. Otherwise, you would not have enjoyed pretty much any game ever. You liked Halo. Every level in Halo operated the way I am describing. No progression, just the experience of the challenge. It worked, and it didn't lock anybody out, because the game had multiple difficulty levels. If you simply didn't have a lot of skill at the game, you played on easy.
But Halo had no progression. Building a character and making choices about their development can be fun. So, have that happen at the beginning of the game, then at the end let that character be unleashed on all the really cool missions and content. Again, even though the challenges are based on skill, nobody has to be locked out if there's a proper difficulty level selector.
I realize what's fun is different for everyone, but I think it's reasonable to say the following are the fun parts of Destiny:
1. Shooting bad guys, by yourself or with a team
2. Exploring the world and story
3. Advancing your character
4. Getting new weapons and gear
That's what I think most people enjoy. So everything that hinders that enjoyment should be taken away. Turns out random loot and MMO mechanics take away the enjoyment from most of those. So remove those and what do you have? An RPG with strong FPS elements, which is what Destiny really should have been in the first place. Genre choice is not arbitrary. If Destiny were a different genre, every single one of those four things would be better for every player, hardcore or casual.
Unless you can make an argument as to why grinding, replaying the same stuff over and over is enjoyable of course.
Complete thread:
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:04
- Is it weird that my video won't load?
- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:08
- Is it weird that my video won't load? -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:10
- All right. Wasn't sure if it was a stream problem.
- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:11
- All right. Wasn't sure if it was a stream problem.
- Is it weird that my video won't load? -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:10
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread - Xenos, 2015-09-02, 16:13
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread - Xenos, 2015-09-02, 16:14
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:18
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 16:48
- 'The winning combo', LOL!
- R41, 2015-09-02, 16:53
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - MacAddictXIV, 2015-09-02, 16:57
- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:59
- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Speedracer513,
2015-09-02, 17:04
- Slutshaming!
- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 17:05
- slowly raises hand.....
- unoudid, 2015-09-02, 17:23
- slowly raises hand..... - Korny, 2015-09-02, 18:13
- slowly raises hand.....
- Slutshaming!
- Mine are bigger. - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-02, 17:06
- Casual sexism is funny! -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:14
- Casual sexism is funny! -
General Vagueness,
2015-09-03, 01:49
- I think Narc's got a good point. - Funkmon, 2015-09-03, 03:32
- Casual sexism is funny! -
General Vagueness,
2015-09-03, 01:49
- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Speedracer513,
2015-09-02, 17:04
- 'The winning combo', LOL!
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - unoudid, 2015-09-02, 17:22
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 16:48
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:21
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-02, 16:23
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:26
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
CyberKN,
2015-09-02, 16:30
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 18:32
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 23:37
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
narcogen,
2015-09-02, 23:42
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Xenos,
2015-09-03, 00:20
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:24
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - Xenos, 2015-09-03, 00:28
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - Ragashingo, 2015-09-03, 00:36
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - General Vagueness, 2015-09-03, 01:06
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:24
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Xenos,
2015-09-03, 00:20
- I'm worried :-/ -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:16
- You should be. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:00
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 01:27
- You should be. - Ragashingo, 2015-09-03, 01:47
- You should be. - narcogen, 2015-09-03, 09:18
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 03:06
- No I'm not. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 09:28
- No I'm not. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 14:23
- I think you have a point? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-09-03, 18:43
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:21
- Loot Cave - CyberKN, 2015-09-03, 23:38
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:46
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 02:24
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-04, 03:03
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 06:44
- Concrete paths. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-04, 10:20
- Concrete paths. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-04, 13:37
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 06:44
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-04, 03:03
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 02:24
- Concrete paths. - General Vagueness, 2015-09-04, 01:11
- Concrete paths. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:30
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:21
- Insane. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:15
- Insane. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:39
- All else aside, - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:48
- Insane. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:46
- Insane. - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:49
- Insane. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:39
- I think you have a point? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-09-03, 18:43
- No I'm not. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 14:23
- No I'm not. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 09:28
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 01:27
- A few points - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-03, 22:44
- You should be. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:00
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
narcogen,
2015-09-02, 23:42
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 23:37
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 18:32
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:33
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - Xenos, 2015-09-02, 16:35
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:39
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:42
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:44
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:45
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:46
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers - Xenos, 2015-09-02, 16:46
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-02, 16:48
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
someotherguy,
2015-09-02, 17:42
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-09-02, 17:51
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers - someotherguy, 2015-09-02, 19:59
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
MacAddictXIV,
2015-09-02, 17:51
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:46
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Mid7night,
2015-09-03, 01:50
- Here's a youtube link for you. - Funkmon, 2015-09-03, 03:41
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:45
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-02, 16:47
- Huge reveal in that trailer. -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:51
- Huge reveal in that trailer. - MacAddictXIV, 2015-09-02, 16:51
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:44
- Done w/ Court of Oryx. Exclusive stuff for Twitch viewers -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:42
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
iconicbanana,
2015-09-02, 16:40
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - unoudid, 2015-09-02, 17:04
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
TheeChaos,
2015-09-02, 18:28
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 18:30
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - TheeChaos, 2015-09-02, 18:34
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 18:30
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - INSANEdrive, 2015-09-03, 01:12
- Is it weird that my video won't load?