
Loot Cave (Destiny)
Look at the loot cave. The loot cave was actually NOT a better way of getting loot than just about any activity in the game. A lot of the glorious screenshots of loot on the ground consisted mostly of ammo drops-- drops you needed to collect in order to keep shooting the loot cave. Bungie's problem was not so much that it had inadvertently created a mechanic that allowed players to shortcircuit the game's reward system as much as it created a situation that allowed players to believe that they had shortcircuited it-- and that was enough.
Actually, it was technically better, for two reasons:
A) Bungie capped the number of marks/drops you could receive from doing activities per week, meaning you could only buy so many pieces of gear per week (if it was a helmet or weapon, just 1). There is no such cap on engrams, thus once you were capped on marks, you were relying on engrams for advancement.
B) The loot cave provided a constant stream of enemies, each of which had the same chance of dropping engrams as every other enemy in the game. Bungie knew this, and that's why they started adding additional rewards to activities like dragon strikes and the daily heroic mission. As opposed to the loot cave, these activities featured intermittent sections where you weren't killing anything, thus decreasing your engram drop efficiency.
And that's why the loot cave was so much more attractive: when you make your end-game about the accumulation of gear, people will work out and gravitate towards the most efficient means possible of achieving that goal.
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:04
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- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:08
- Is it weird that my video won't load? -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:10
- All right. Wasn't sure if it was a stream problem.
- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:11
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- Is it weird that my video won't load? -
Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:10
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Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:18
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Korny,
2015-09-02, 16:48
- 'The winning combo', LOL!
- R41, 2015-09-02, 16:53
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- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:59
- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Speedracer513,
2015-09-02, 17:04
- Slutshaming!
- Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 17:05
- slowly raises hand.....
- unoudid, 2015-09-02, 17:23
- slowly raises hand..... - Korny, 2015-09-02, 18:13
- slowly raises hand.....
- Slutshaming!
- Mine are bigger. - ProbablyLast, 2015-09-02, 17:06
- Casual sexism is funny! -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:14
- Casual sexism is funny! -
General Vagueness,
2015-09-03, 01:49
- I think Narc's got a good point. - Funkmon, 2015-09-03, 03:32
- Casual sexism is funny! -
General Vagueness,
2015-09-03, 01:49
- I have boobs! I should start streaming! -
Speedracer513,
2015-09-02, 17:04
- 'The winning combo', LOL!
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Korny,
2015-09-02, 16:48
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Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:21
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CyberKN,
2015-09-02, 16:30
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 18:32
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 23:37
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
narcogen,
2015-09-02, 23:42
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Xenos,
2015-09-03, 00:20
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:24
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - Xenos, 2015-09-03, 00:28
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - Ragashingo, 2015-09-03, 00:36
- Not as dumb as people keep implying - General Vagueness, 2015-09-03, 01:06
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:24
- Not as dumb as people keep implying -
Xenos,
2015-09-03, 00:20
- I'm worried :-/ -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 00:16
- You should be. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:00
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 01:27
- You should be. - Ragashingo, 2015-09-03, 01:47
- You should be. - narcogen, 2015-09-03, 09:18
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 03:06
- No I'm not. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 09:28
- No I'm not. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 14:23
- I think you have a point? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-09-03, 18:43
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:21
- Loot Cave - CyberKN, 2015-09-03, 23:38
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:46
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 02:24
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-04, 03:03
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 06:44
- Concrete paths. - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-04, 10:20
- Concrete paths. - Cody Miller, 2015-09-04, 13:37
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 06:44
- Concrete paths. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-04, 03:03
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-04, 02:24
- Concrete paths. - General Vagueness, 2015-09-04, 01:11
- Concrete paths. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:30
- Concrete paths. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:21
- Insane. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 23:15
- Insane. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:39
- All else aside, - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:48
- Insane. - RaichuKFM, 2015-09-05, 16:46
- Insane. - Funkmon, 2015-09-05, 16:49
- Insane. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 23:39
- I think you have a point? -
RaichuKFM,
2015-09-03, 18:43
- No I'm not. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 14:23
- No I'm not. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 09:28
- You should be. -
Cody Miller,
2015-09-03, 01:27
- A few points - CruelLEGACEY, 2015-09-03, 22:44
- You should be. -
narcogen,
2015-09-03, 01:00
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
narcogen,
2015-09-02, 23:42
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 23:37
- Luke says "Don't worry." -
Korny,
2015-09-02, 18:32
- Court of Oryx Twitch Reveal Thread *Please read before post* - Funkmon, 2015-09-02, 16:33
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:39
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:42
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:44
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:45
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Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:46
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2015-09-02, 17:42
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2015-09-02, 17:51
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2015-09-02, 17:51
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Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:46
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Mid7night,
2015-09-03, 01:50
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Xenos,
2015-09-02, 16:45
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Funkmon,
2015-09-02, 16:51
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2015-09-02, 16:44
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2015-09-02, 16:42
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2015-09-02, 16:40
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2015-09-02, 18:28
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2015-09-02, 18:30
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2015-09-02, 18:30
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