Okay, I'll bite... (Gaming)
by MacAddictXIV 
, Seattle WA, Monday, August 01, 2016, 12:12 (3036 days ago) @ Cody Miller
Disagree. I can name a hundred hand-crafted games with less-than-perfect design... and a thousand more with really crappy design.
And I can name zero games with design handled 100% by algorithm that have good design. Of course there are bad designers out there. But I can name hundreds of games that have amazing design, which are completely the result of a human touch.
Yeah, can you name a game that has NO algorithms in it? Games are made with human hands and algorithms. That is just what it is right now. You are arguing that we need to stay with human hands, which will make games better. They are just arguing that games need to be progressed by giving more control to algorithms as oppose to human hands (that I know from personal experience can only do so much). They aren't saying that EVERYTHING is procedural. That can't be done right now. It's that simple. Maybe one day that is a possibility, but not right now.
Y'all need to stop thinking so black and white. Although I love lurking in on your debates about such things, sometimes you guys needs some perspective :-)
Complete thread:
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 00:33
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- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 01:25
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 01:33
- i took the launch day off work -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 01:57
- i took the launch day off work - cheapLEY, 2016-07-31, 03:03
- i took the launch day off work -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 01:57
- You don't even have to wait for release, Cody: -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 14:37
- "A mile wide and an inch deep"
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someotherguy,
2016-07-31, 15:34
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 16:02
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 16:17
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - someotherguy, 2016-07-31, 17:59
- Okay, I'll bite... -
slycrel,
2016-07-31, 17:59
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 20:50
- Okay, I'll bite... -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 21:16
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 22:47
- Okay, I'll bite... -
EffortlessFury,
2016-08-01, 03:49
- Okay, I'll bite... - Cody Miller, 2016-08-01, 10:29
- Okay, I'll bite... -
EffortlessFury,
2016-08-01, 03:49
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:55
- Okay, I'll bite... - MacAddictXIV, 2016-08-01, 12:12
- Minecraft disagrees with you. -
slycrel,
2016-08-01, 13:58
- I think you mean Maya. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-01, 14:47
- I see what you did there ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-02, 21:55
- I see what you did there ;)
- I think you mean Maya.
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-01, 15:31
- Don't forget FTL! -
CyberKN,
2016-08-01, 17:35
- Right! So many procedural worlds. - Kahzgul, 2016-08-01, 19:18
- Don't forget FTL!
- Procedural Generation sure sounds amazing - Cody Miller, 2016-08-09, 09:39
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 22:47
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
kidtsunami,
2016-08-01, 12:39
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:04
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 13:10
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 14:09
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 14:45
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:01
- There's no way you're not trolling at this point - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:12
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-01, 15:31
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:40
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-02, 21:25
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
CyberKN,
2016-08-02, 21:32
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-03, 10:58
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 11:34
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-08-03, 12:45
- Well, that was an easy decision -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 12:47
- Well, that was an easy decision
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-08-03, 12:45
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 11:34
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-03, 10:58
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
CyberKN,
2016-08-02, 21:32
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-02, 21:25
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:40
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:01
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 14:45
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 14:09
- Wait, what? - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:10
- "When you don't have to learn or improve"????? - kidtsunami, 2016-08-02, 12:55
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky - Funkmon, 2016-08-02, 12:59
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 13:10
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:04
- Okay, I'll bite... - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-08-02, 21:26
- Okay, I'll bite... -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 21:16
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 20:50
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - Kahzgul, 2016-08-01, 15:25
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 16:36
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:03
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 17:21
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - Cody Miller, 2016-07-31, 17:53
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 17:21
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:03
- You weren't the only one. #almosteveryonewasright -
someotherguy,
2016-07-31, 18:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 16:17
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 16:02
- "A mile wide and an inch deep"
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 01:33
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Kahzgul,
2016-07-31, 14:50
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:59
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Korny,
2016-08-01, 12:16
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now - Cody Miller, 2016-08-01, 12:21
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
kidtsunami,
2016-08-01, 12:36
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-01, 12:59
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:07
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant - MacAddictXIV, 2016-08-01, 13:14
- Unless you had a PS2, that sounds a like a damn waste -
ZackDark,
2016-08-01, 15:09
- +1000 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 15:14
- +1000
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:07
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-01, 12:59
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Korny,
2016-08-01, 12:16
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:59
- The Babadook is contained in the basement at the end. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-01, 15:14
- I can't tell if this is genius or not - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:19
- Angel, Handsome Jack's daughter, is a Siren. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-01, 15:48
- Ehhhh. Thats pretty close to the line. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 16:20
- Crossing the line -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 16:31
- I was going to post something similar. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-01, 16:42
- Pyrrha dies, Yang loses an arm, Cinder gets superpowers. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-01, 18:31
- Diablo sacrifices himself to kill Enchantress' brother. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-01, 18:52
- Crossing the line -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 16:31
- Ehhhh. Thats pretty close to the line.
- This AGAIN? Way to be jerks, guys... -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-01, 19:06
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:14
- +7, Be excellent to each other. -
dogcow,
2016-08-01, 19:37
- +7, Be excellent to each other.
- You said it. -
Kermit,
2016-08-02, 11:37
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:14
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Kermit,
2016-08-01, 17:03
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:12
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. - Funkmon, 2016-08-01, 20:29
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Kermit,
2016-08-02, 11:43
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. - someotherguy, 2016-08-02, 14:39
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:12
- If I discover any new planets, I will name them after... - Kalamari, 2016-08-01, 22:37
- So . . . - cheapLEY, 2016-08-03, 00:21
- Hype levels at maximum. - cheapLEY, 2016-08-04, 14:33
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Kermit,
2016-08-04, 16:23
- I just don't like . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-04, 17:41
- I just don't like . . . -
stabbim,
2016-08-04, 18:31
- I heard that the developers are fans of Hitler. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-04, 19:42
- I heard that Hitler was a fan of NMS. -
Xenos,
2016-08-04, 19:55
- Might have to check this game out now. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-04, 23:50
- Might have to check this game out now.
- I heard that Hitler was a fan of NMS.
- I heard that the developers are fans of Hitler.
- I just don't like . . . - Kermit, 2016-08-04, 19:44
- I just don't like . . . -
stabbim,
2016-08-04, 18:31
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:26
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-04, 20:37
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Kermit,
2016-08-04, 20:38
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:59
- Really? - kidtsunami, 2016-08-04, 23:25
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:59
- +1
- I just don't like . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-04, 17:41
- So, I think I'm pretty sold. - cheapLEY, 2016-08-06, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-07, 19:34
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 10:50
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 11:07
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
breitzen,
2016-08-08, 12:16
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 13:00
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:05
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:12
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:13
- +1 -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 13:34
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:37
- Yep. God is a bitchin' Game Developer. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:39
- Yep. God is a bitchin' Game Developer.
- +1
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:13
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... - Kermit, 2016-08-08, 13:25
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:12
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 16:51
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
breitzen,
2016-08-08, 12:16
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 11:07
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 12:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 12:59
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:14
- The importance of getting it right the first time - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-08-08, 13:19
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:22
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 16:57
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 21:47
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 22:24
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
ZackDark,
2016-08-08, 13:36
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 13:41
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 13:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 14:44
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 14:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 15:13
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-08, 16:12
- Agreed, and some more thoughts on the subject -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 20:23
- My thoughts exactly -
ZackDark,
2016-08-08, 21:00
- My thoughts exactly
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 21:15
- Agreed, and some more thoughts on the subject -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 20:23
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-08, 16:12
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 21:52
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 22:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 23:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 00:16
- Roger. Agreeing to disagree. :) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 01:01
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 14:03
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 14:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 14:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 16:25
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:55
- They're confusing it with Elite Dangerous? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 18:42
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 18:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time - cheapLEY, 2016-08-09, 21:17
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-09, 20:27
- The importance of getting it right the first time - dogcow, 2016-08-10, 13:24
- They're confusing it with Elite Dangerous?
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:55
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 16:25
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 14:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 14:08
- Roger. Agreeing to disagree. :)
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 00:16
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-09, 04:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-09, 18:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Kermit, 2016-08-09, 22:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-09, 18:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 23:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 22:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 15:13
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 14:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 14:44
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:14
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 12:59
- Relevant -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 19:34
- Relevant - Claude Errera, 2016-08-08, 19:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 10:50
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 03:58
- Just imagine how good it'll be if you apply the patch! ;) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 04:13
- Wait, there's a patch? -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:27
- Heh. -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 04:35
- Heh.
- Wait, there's a patch?
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. - Kermit, 2016-08-09, 13:06
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 14:12
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:22
- Gives you a place to upgrade and feel happy about "progress" -
slycrel,
2016-08-09, 16:41
- Amen to that. -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 17:42
- Gives you a place to upgrade and feel happy about "progress"
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:22
- Just imagine how good it'll be if you apply the patch! ;)
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 01:25