The importance of getting it right the first time (Gaming)
by Cody Miller 
, Music of the Spheres - Never Forgot, Monday, August 08, 2016, 14:44 (3029 days ago) @ Kermit
You lost me at "shit version." I think you have an unrealistic view of game development. Patches became attractive when they became a practical way of making the game better on launch day than it could otherwise be. Yes, this method can be abused, and games that have problems on launch day should be judged accordingly, but the implicit contract between the gamer and the developer is about what the game will be at launch, not before.
If you rely on the convenience of a day 1 patch, then you need to live with the consequences of people 'reviewing' your game in an unfinished state. If that's worth the tradeoff, then I guess that's their call.
Complete thread:
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 00:33
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- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 01:25
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 01:33
- i took the launch day off work -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 01:57
- i took the launch day off work - cheapLEY, 2016-07-31, 03:03
- i took the launch day off work -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 01:57
- You don't even have to wait for release, Cody: -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 14:37
- "A mile wide and an inch deep"
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someotherguy,
2016-07-31, 15:34
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 16:02
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 16:17
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - someotherguy, 2016-07-31, 17:59
- Okay, I'll bite... -
slycrel,
2016-07-31, 17:59
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 20:50
- Okay, I'll bite... -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 21:16
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 22:47
- Okay, I'll bite... -
EffortlessFury,
2016-08-01, 03:49
- Okay, I'll bite... - Cody Miller, 2016-08-01, 10:29
- Okay, I'll bite... -
EffortlessFury,
2016-08-01, 03:49
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:55
- Okay, I'll bite... - MacAddictXIV, 2016-08-01, 12:12
- Minecraft disagrees with you. -
slycrel,
2016-08-01, 13:58
- I think you mean Maya. -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-01, 14:47
- I see what you did there ;) -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-02, 21:55
- I see what you did there ;)
- I think you mean Maya.
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Kahzgul,
2016-08-01, 15:31
- Don't forget FTL! -
CyberKN,
2016-08-01, 17:35
- Right! So many procedural worlds. - Kahzgul, 2016-08-01, 19:18
- Don't forget FTL!
- Procedural Generation sure sounds amazing - Cody Miller, 2016-08-09, 09:39
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 22:47
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
kidtsunami,
2016-08-01, 12:39
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:04
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 13:10
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 14:09
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 14:45
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:01
- There's no way you're not trolling at this point - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:12
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-01, 15:31
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:40
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-02, 21:25
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
CyberKN,
2016-08-02, 21:32
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-03, 10:58
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 11:34
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-08-03, 12:45
- Well, that was an easy decision -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 12:47
- Well, that was an easy decision
- +1 -
stabbim,
2016-08-03, 12:45
- +1 -
ZackDark,
2016-08-03, 11:34
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-03, 10:58
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
CyberKN,
2016-08-02, 21:32
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
SonofMacPhisto,
2016-08-02, 21:25
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:40
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 15:01
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 14:45
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 14:09
- Wait, what? - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:10
- "When you don't have to learn or improve"????? - kidtsunami, 2016-08-02, 12:55
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky - Funkmon, 2016-08-02, 12:59
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-01, 13:10
- I'm curious what you think of Spelunky -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:04
- Okay, I'll bite... - SonofMacPhisto, 2016-08-02, 21:26
- Okay, I'll bite... -
CyberKN,
2016-07-31, 21:16
- Okay, I'll bite... -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 20:50
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - Kahzgul, 2016-08-01, 15:25
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 16:36
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:03
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 17:21
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" - Cody Miller, 2016-07-31, 17:53
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Ragashingo,
2016-07-31, 17:21
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 17:03
- You weren't the only one. #almosteveryonewasright -
someotherguy,
2016-07-31, 18:00
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 16:17
- "A mile wide and an inch deep" -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 16:02
- "A mile wide and an inch deep"
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
cheapLEY,
2016-07-31, 01:33
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Kahzgul,
2016-07-31, 14:50
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:59
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Korny,
2016-08-01, 12:16
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now - Cody Miller, 2016-08-01, 12:21
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
kidtsunami,
2016-08-01, 12:36
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-01, 12:59
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:07
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant - MacAddictXIV, 2016-08-01, 13:14
- Unless you had a PS2, that sounds a like a damn waste -
ZackDark,
2016-08-01, 15:09
- +1000 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 15:14
- +1000
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 13:07
- Oh man, Crimson Skies was brilliant -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-01, 12:59
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Korny,
2016-08-01, 12:16
- Except we've known the NMS gameplay loop for a while now -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 10:59
- The Babadook is contained in the basement at the end. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-01, 15:14
- I can't tell if this is genius or not - someotherguy, 2016-08-01, 15:19
- Angel, Handsome Jack's daughter, is a Siren. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-01, 15:48
- Ehhhh. Thats pretty close to the line. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 16:20
- Crossing the line -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 16:31
- I was going to post something similar. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-01, 16:42
- Pyrrha dies, Yang loses an arm, Cinder gets superpowers. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-01, 18:31
- Diablo sacrifices himself to kill Enchantress' brother. - ProbablyLast, 2016-08-01, 18:52
- Crossing the line -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-01, 16:31
- Ehhhh. Thats pretty close to the line.
- This AGAIN? Way to be jerks, guys... -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-01, 19:06
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:14
- +7, Be excellent to each other. -
dogcow,
2016-08-01, 19:37
- +7, Be excellent to each other.
- You said it. -
Kermit,
2016-08-02, 11:37
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:14
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Kermit,
2016-08-01, 17:03
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:12
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. - Funkmon, 2016-08-01, 20:29
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Kermit,
2016-08-02, 11:43
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. - someotherguy, 2016-08-02, 14:39
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
someotherguy,
2016-08-01, 19:12
- If I discover any new planets, I will name them after... - Kalamari, 2016-08-01, 22:37
- So . . . - cheapLEY, 2016-08-03, 00:21
- Hype levels at maximum. - cheapLEY, 2016-08-04, 14:33
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Kermit,
2016-08-04, 16:23
- I just don't like . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-04, 17:41
- I just don't like . . . -
stabbim,
2016-08-04, 18:31
- I heard that the developers are fans of Hitler. -
Funkmon,
2016-08-04, 19:42
- I heard that Hitler was a fan of NMS. -
Xenos,
2016-08-04, 19:55
- Might have to check this game out now. -
ProbablyLast,
2016-08-04, 23:50
- Might have to check this game out now.
- I heard that Hitler was a fan of NMS.
- I heard that the developers are fans of Hitler.
- I just don't like . . . - Kermit, 2016-08-04, 19:44
- I just don't like . . . -
stabbim,
2016-08-04, 18:31
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:26
- +1 -
someotherguy,
2016-08-04, 20:37
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Kermit,
2016-08-04, 20:38
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:59
- Really? - kidtsunami, 2016-08-04, 23:25
- I thought this was fair-minded.. -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-04, 20:59
- +1
- I just don't like . . . -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-04, 17:41
- So, I think I'm pretty sold. - cheapLEY, 2016-08-06, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-07, 19:34
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 10:50
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 11:07
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
breitzen,
2016-08-08, 12:16
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 13:00
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:05
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:12
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:13
- +1 -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 13:34
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:37
- Yep. God is a bitchin' Game Developer. -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:39
- Yep. God is a bitchin' Game Developer.
- +1
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
MacAddictXIV,
2016-08-08, 13:13
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... - Kermit, 2016-08-08, 13:25
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:12
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 16:51
- I wish Suicide Squad had a day one patch... -
breitzen,
2016-08-08, 12:16
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 11:07
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 12:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 12:59
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:14
- The importance of getting it right the first time - CruelLEGACEY, 2016-08-08, 13:19
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:22
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 16:57
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 21:47
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Ragashingo, 2016-08-08, 22:24
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
ZackDark,
2016-08-08, 13:36
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 13:41
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 13:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 14:44
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 14:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 15:13
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-08, 16:12
- Agreed, and some more thoughts on the subject -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 20:23
- My thoughts exactly -
ZackDark,
2016-08-08, 21:00
- My thoughts exactly
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Cody Miller, 2016-08-08, 21:15
- Agreed, and some more thoughts on the subject -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 20:23
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Claude Errera,
2016-08-08, 16:12
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 21:52
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 22:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 23:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 00:16
- Roger. Agreeing to disagree. :) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 01:01
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 14:03
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 14:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 14:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 16:25
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:55
- They're confusing it with Elite Dangerous? -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 18:42
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 18:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time - cheapLEY, 2016-08-09, 21:17
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-09, 20:27
- The importance of getting it right the first time - dogcow, 2016-08-10, 13:24
- They're confusing it with Elite Dangerous?
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:55
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 16:25
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 14:54
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-09, 14:08
- Roger. Agreeing to disagree. :)
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 00:16
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 23:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-09, 04:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-09, 18:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time - Kermit, 2016-08-09, 22:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Kermit,
2016-08-09, 18:30
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:29
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-08, 23:02
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 22:40
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 15:13
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 14:58
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 14:44
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 13:14
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
CruelLEGACEY,
2016-08-08, 13:08
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Cody Miller,
2016-08-08, 12:59
- Relevant -
Kermit,
2016-08-08, 19:34
- Relevant - Claude Errera, 2016-08-08, 19:56
- The importance of getting it right the first time -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-08, 10:50
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 03:58
- Just imagine how good it'll be if you apply the patch! ;) -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 04:13
- Wait, there's a patch? -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 04:27
- Heh. -
Ragashingo,
2016-08-09, 04:35
- Heh.
- Wait, there's a patch?
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. - Kermit, 2016-08-09, 13:06
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 14:12
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:22
- Gives you a place to upgrade and feel happy about "progress" -
slycrel,
2016-08-09, 16:41
- Amen to that. -
dogcow,
2016-08-09, 17:42
- Gives you a place to upgrade and feel happy about "progress"
- Initial thoughts on it after an hour and a half. -
cheapLEY,
2016-08-09, 16:22
- Just imagine how good it'll be if you apply the patch! ;)
- PSA: Gameplay mechanics are now considered spoilers. -
Cody Miller,
2016-07-31, 01:25