Inventory management (Destiny)
I was struck with the oddness of having a cursor at first, but there are great reasons why, most of which are discussed here:
It seems like the main reason he talks about is to negate the need to press up/down/left/right repeatedly to get to each inventory slot, but this is something that Diablo III also had to handle for the console versions, and their approach (I think) works even better:
A radial menu! So you push in the direction of the slot you want to interact with to highlight it, then press a button to select. Once you're ‘inside’ a given inventory slot it's more traditional d-pad navigation, but that's okay: it's modal.
One of the biggest issues I encountered with the cursor navigation is that it's too easy to accidentally ‘leave’ the modal context of a given inventory slot whilst moving between them, at which point in order to go back to browsing between items you have to return to the inventory slot itself. It's particularly easy to do this if you have two or more rows of items for a given slot; you open the slot and start diagonally moving off towards the second or third row, but in so doing you leave the hotspot of the slot before reaching the destination, and so it closes.
To avoid this you have to actually move the cursor horizontally first, then vertically, which feels a bit unintuitive. They could probably have solved this problem relatively easily with a timer once you leave the area of each slot, giving you time to hit the second row before the expanded items collapse again.
On the flip side, the map is something that I imagine would be a whole lot more difficult to implement with a traditional d-pad UI, and I think here more than anywhere else the cursor shines — I doubt it'd be possible to do this better any other way.
Complete thread:
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 10:45
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
Monochron,
2014-08-21, 10:59
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . - Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 11:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
yaters,
2014-08-21, 22:23
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:54
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 10:05
- Smartglass ... -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 10:20
- Smartglass ... - DaDerga, 2014-08-22, 10:22
- Smartglass ... - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 13:56
- Does no one use the sixaxis method? -
RC,
2014-08-23, 07:49
- Does no one use the sixaxis method? - kapowaz, 2014-08-23, 08:05
- Smartglass ... -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 10:20
- Steam Big Screen's is probably the best around -
ZackDark,
2014-08-22, 12:28
- Steam Big Screen's is probably the best around - kapowaz, 2014-08-25, 08:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 10:05
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 12:49
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:54
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:04
- Agreed, I love it
- kidtsunami, 2014-08-21, 11:06
- Great Video.
- Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 11:30
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 12:14
- Inventory management -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 13:42
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 14:36
- Inventory management - Ragashingo, 2014-08-21, 14:45
- Inventory management -
Penthesilean,
2014-08-21, 19:42
- Inventory management - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 09:47
- Inventory management -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 14:36
- Inventory management - General Vagueness, 2014-08-21, 19:39
- Inventory management -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:17
- Inventory management - kapowaz, 2014-08-22, 16:32
- Inventory management -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 13:42
- Yep - That's a great video - Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-21, 12:39
- The cursor UI has real problems -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 09:44
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:14
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 12:36
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-23, 12:38
- The cursor UI has real problems - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 13:14
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-23, 12:38
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 12:36
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Xenos,
2014-08-22, 15:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:14
- Agreed, I love it
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 11:07
- You Are Not Alone
- DaDerga, 2014-08-21, 11:07
- Agreed. - SigbiasSilva, 2014-08-21, 11:13
- I loved the cursor
- Xenos, 2014-08-21, 11:42
- The cursor UI has real problems -
kapowaz,
2014-08-21, 12:18
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 12:25
- The cursor UI has real problems - kapowaz, 2014-08-21, 12:27
- The cursor UI has real problems -
TTL Demag0gue,
2014-08-21, 12:25
- +1 for liking it
- Blue_Blazer_NZ, 2014-08-21, 12:41
- Nope, it's fine by me too.
- Anton P. Nym (aka Steve), 2014-08-21, 14:58
- The cursor UI has real problems - roland, 2014-08-21, 17:27
- You Are Not Alone
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Mars,
2014-08-21, 11:19
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:33
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - Mars, 2014-08-21, 12:04
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 19:34
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 19:53
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 20:35
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 20:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 22:24
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 22:43
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 11:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - stabbim, 2014-08-22, 13:59
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 15:19
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-22, 12:51
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
stabbim,
2014-08-22, 11:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 22:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 13:25
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 13:32
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - Ragashingo, 2014-08-22, 16:01
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Avateur,
2014-08-22, 16:24
- Wow. Even I didn't notice that! :p
- Ragashingo, 2014-08-22, 16:50
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 12:40
- Wow. Even I didn't notice that! :p
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 15:26
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-22, 13:32
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
kapowaz,
2014-08-22, 13:25
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-22, 12:52
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Ragashingo,
2014-08-21, 22:43
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 22:24
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 20:56
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation - kapowaz, 2014-08-22, 01:16
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-21, 20:35
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 19:53
- Cursor vs Tradition Console Navigation -
Kermit,
2014-08-21, 11:33
- The cursor UI has real problems -
Jabberwok,
2014-08-21, 14:52
- The cursor UI has real problems -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:27
- The cursor UI has real problems - General Vagueness, 2014-08-23, 12:45
- The cursor UI has real problems -
agdtinman,
2014-08-22, 16:27
- Maybe it was designed for Kinect/EYE/DualShock4 touchpad use
- Pyromancy, 2014-08-21, 17:54
- Maybe it was designed for Kinect/EYE/DualShock4 touchpad use - Miguel Chavez, 2014-08-21, 21:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-23, 13:24
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-23, 16:09
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Cody Miller, 2014-08-23, 16:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-23, 20:51
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Avateur,
2014-08-23, 21:35
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-23, 23:21
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 01:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 02:32
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 05:12
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Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 10:36
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - kapowaz, 2014-08-25, 02:11
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 10:36
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 05:12
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
breitzen,
2014-08-24, 06:53
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - kapowaz, 2014-08-24, 08:08
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 02:32
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - General Vagueness, 2014-08-24, 18:42
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
kapowaz,
2014-08-24, 01:14
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 18:37
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 18:41
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 19:20
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-24, 20:26
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:34
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-24, 19:20
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Avateur, 2014-08-24, 18:43
- Number of times I fought with the interface *EDIT* -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 18:41
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Phoenix_9286,
2014-08-23, 23:21
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
JDQuackers,
2014-08-24, 18:00
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General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:33
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - ZackDark, 2014-08-24, 19:39
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General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:47
- That, I agree with -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:57
- That, I agree with - Phoenix_9286, 2014-08-24, 20:36
- That, I agree with -
kapowaz,
2014-08-25, 08:09
- Yep.
- Kermit, 2014-08-25, 09:39
- Yep.
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agdtinman,
2014-08-25, 16:19
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Mars, 2014-08-25, 16:29
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - General Vagueness, 2014-08-25, 23:43
- That, I agree with -
ZackDark,
2014-08-24, 19:57
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
General Vagueness,
2014-08-24, 19:33
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Avateur,
2014-08-23, 21:35
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agdtinman,
2014-08-25, 16:04
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Cody Miller,
2014-08-25, 17:02
- Number of times I fought with the interface: - Claude Errera, 2014-08-25, 18:30
- Number of times I fought with the interface: -
Cody Miller,
2014-08-25, 17:02
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kapowaz,
2014-08-23, 16:09
- Well, it's the best cursor on a console but . . . -
Monochron,
2014-08-21, 10:59